General Discussion, Tuesday, January 31, 2017

Posted on January 31, 2017 by Stella

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  1. MaryfromMarin says:
    January 31, 2017 at 12:07 am

    Great news!

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    • MaryfromMarin says:
      January 31, 2017 at 12:29 am

      Need to post this again:

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:
      January 31, 2017 at 12:30 am

      Oh boy!!!!! I can just see or be in the room, and I could make a fortune selling tickets Dr. Gorka and Czar debating the finer points of counterinsurgency, intel gathering, and other fine points. The presentation would be Ph.D worthy !!!!!!!!
      Now I could do the OPORD, no problem….

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      • czarowniczy says:
        January 31, 2017 at 12:56 am

        I came to believe the finer points of counterinsurgency come at the tips of bombs on an arclight raid. Note that the chairborne desk rangers changed it from guerrilla warfare to counterinsurgency to asymmetrical warfare. Each time you change the name you get to say it’s all brand new (pick a BS reason) and get to start studying it all over from the beginning.

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        • Col.(R) Ken says:
          January 31, 2017 at 6:51 pm

          Righty said Czar!!! While attending SAMS, a comparison question was asked: difference between the Apache wars in the southwest, and the early days of our involvement in RVN……..
          PE ( practical experience) is my class room.

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  3. ImpeachEmAll says:
    January 31, 2017 at 12:19 am

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  4. ImpeachEmAll says:
    January 31, 2017 at 12:23 am

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  5. czarowniczy says:
    January 31, 2017 at 12:27 am

    Boy Scouts have caved and will allow transgenders who identify as ‘boy’ to be Boy Scouts. Wow, can’t wait to see the new merit badges. I’ll ask my old friend who’s an LDS/retired military officer what kind of fun activities this will…ahem…engender.

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  6. MaryfromMarin says:
    January 31, 2017 at 12:30 am

    For your viewing pleasure, aus (and others):

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  7. ImpeachEmAll says:
    January 31, 2017 at 12:34 am

    Life’s irony…

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:
      January 31, 2017 at 12:49 am

      He is a POS.
      Impeach, don’t know if you had read the entire thread yesterday. Towards the bottom Stella had posted a letter from some concerned American Catholics. Requesting an investigation into why the former Pope resigned. Seems Obola, Bite me, Clinton and others may have used nefarious methods in the former Popes resignation and putting “their” man in. Quite interesting….. I hope Trump puts this on the burner….

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    • ImpeachEmAll says:
      January 31, 2017 at 1:15 am

      H.R. 158 (114th):
      Visa Waiver Program Improvement
      and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015

      https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr158

      H.R. 158: Visa Waiver Program Improvement Act of 2015

      Passed: 407 – 19

      https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/114-2015/h679

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      • ImpeachEmAll says:
        January 31, 2017 at 2:42 am

        Cosponsors

        93 cosponsors (64R, 29D) (show)

        McCaul, Michael [R-TX10] (joined Jan 6, 2015)

        Sessions, Pete [R-TX32] (joined Jan 16, 2015)

        Messer, Luke [R-IN6] (joined Jan 20, 2015)

        Hudson, Richard [R-NC8] (joined Jan 26, 2015)

        Brooks, Susan [R-IN5] (joined Feb 3, 2015)

        Cramer, Kevin [R-ND0] (joined Nov 30, 2015)

        Kaptur, Marcy [D-OH9] (joined Nov 30, 2015)

        Kirkpatrick, Ann [D-AZ1] (joined Dec 1, 2015)

        Loudermilk, Barry [R-GA11] (joined Dec 1, 2015)

        Dent, Charles [R-PA15] (joined Dec 2, 2015)

        Ruppersberger, A. Dutch [D-MD2] (joined Dec 2, 2015)

        Black, Diane [R-TN6] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Byrne, Bradley [R-AL1] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Collins, Chris [R-NY27] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Cook, Paul [R-CA8] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Culberson, John [R-TX7] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Donovan, Daniel [R-NY11] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Esty, Elizabeth [D-CT5] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Fortenberry, Jeff [R-NE1] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Foster, Bill [D-IL11] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Harper, Gregg [R-MS3] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Johnson, Bill [R-OH6] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Latta, Robert [R-OH5] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Nunes, Devin [R-CA22] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Pittenger, Robert [R-NC9] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Poliquin, Bruce [R-ME2] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Quigley, Mike [D-IL5] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Sinema, Kyrsten [D-AZ9] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Smith, Jason [R-MO8] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Stewart, Chris [R-UT2] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Stivers, Steve [R-OH15] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Wagner, Ann [R-MO2] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Walorski, Jackie [R-IN2] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Zinke, Ryan [R-MT0] (joined Dec 3, 2015)

        Abraham, Ralph [R-LA5] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Aderholt, Robert [R-AL4] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Ashford, Brad [D-NE2] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Benishek, Dan [R-MI1] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Bilirakis, Gus [R-FL12] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Bishop, Mike [R-MI8] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Bishop, Sanford [D-GA2] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Boustany, Charles [R-LA3] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Bustos, Cheri [D-IL17] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Carter, Buddy [R-GA1] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Cicilline, David [D-RI1] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Cole, Tom [R-OK4] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Courtney, Joe [D-CT2] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Duckworth, Tammy [D-IL8] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Duncan, Jeff [R-SC3] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Ellmers, Renee [R-NC2] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Engel, Eliot [D-NY16] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Garamendi, John [D-CA3] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Hartzler, Vicky [R-MO4] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Hensarling, Jeb [R-TX5] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Hill, French [R-AR2] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Huffman, Jared [D-CA2] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Huizenga, Bill [R-MI2] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Jenkins, Evan [R-WV3] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Jenkins, Lynn [R-KS2] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Katko, John [R-NY24] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Kline, John [R-MN2] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Lance, Leonard [R-NJ7] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Long, Billy [R-MO7] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Luetkemeyer, Blaine [R-MO3] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Lujan Grisham, Michelle [D-NM1] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Lummis, Cynthia [R-WY0] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Lynch, Stephen [D-MA8] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Marino, Tom [R-PA10] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        McKinley, David [R-WV1] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        McSally, Martha [R-AZ2] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Meehan, Patrick [R-PA7] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Miller, Jeff [R-FL1] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Moolenaar, John [R-MI4] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Newhouse, Dan [R-WA4] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Perlmutter, Ed [D-CO7] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Perry, Scott [R-PA4] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Peterson, Collin [D-MN7] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Polis, Jared [D-CO2] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Rangel, Charles “Charlie” [D-NY13] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Richmond, Cedric [D-LA2] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Rouzer, David [R-NC7] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Sanchez, Loretta [D-CA46] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Schrader, Kurt [D-OR5] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Smith, Adrian [R-NE3] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Thompson, Bennie [D-MS2] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Titus, Dina [D-NV1] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Trott, Dave [R-MI11] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Welch, Peter [D-VT0] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Westerman, Bruce [R-AR4] (joined Dec 7, 2015)

        Boyle, Brendan [D-PA13] (joined Dec 8, 2015)

        Graves, Garret [R-LA6] (joined Dec 8, 2015)

        Royce, Edward “Ed” [R-CA39] (joined Dec 8, 2015)

        Woodall, Rob [R-GA7] (joined Dec 8, 2015)

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    • ImpeachEmAll says:
      January 31, 2017 at 3:11 am

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  8. czarowniczy says:
    January 31, 2017 at 12:47 am

    Col: couldn’t reply to your reply on yesterdays post. Yeah, a squad of trained actors could easily take over many PDs as the police are not trained to react as such.
    If we go back to the 60s and 70s we see many attacks on stations by the Obama predecessors the Black Panthers and the Weathermen. For some years after that stations were designed to be less visitor friendly and more defensive in nature. Now, years after the last attacks, they are less visitor friendly but not as defensive to a determined and trained attacker.
    Yeah, armed citizens may be an answer but progs and Rats are desperately trying to make sure thst never happens. Yes, they are after your guns as they want their security forces to be your only source of salvation. Don’t follow their line and 911 just might put you on hold.
    Then we have the issue of an armed citizen response force. Many states have laws making it illegal for a non-government-sanctioned ‘militia’ force to be created. If the time comes you can expect Congress, under the right control and circumstances, to use one of the myriad of Federal laws to pass a Federal ban too.
    I can see more than a few ways for Moslem militants to legally get around the existing laws at all levels and, of course, the illegal way of ‘just do it’.

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:
      January 31, 2017 at 1:05 am

      Agree, Czar. Here in PA we Citizens still have the right to form legal Militia Units. The Gun club I’m a member of is one such unit. The membership board does require full FBI background checks, credit, and other hoops to jump through. I’m just a general member as is most veterans who are club members. I have taught small unit classes, and weapons classes, limited patrolling. You have to remember most of these guys are just plain hunters. Should have been there when I gave the old class on taking care of the feet.
      Now these guys, and there are a few womem, would protect their homes, now going in after MS-13 or 10-15 Mooluuummmm in an intense firefight, maybe maybe not.

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      • Col.(R) Ken says:
        January 31, 2017 at 1:11 am

        That’s why, people need to be alert at all times. Who rented that car, boat? Why would that guy/girl buy such and such….. it’s the little thing that happen throughout the AO that need to be reported.
        Wonder if the boys at JFK, Mother Bragg have some eyes on some of those camps? Hopefully we have a plan, to exploit the intel that is gather….before the Maverick Msls fly in…….

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        • czarowniczy says:
          January 31, 2017 at 1:21 am

          I’m sure someone does, maybe with Trump there we can get some ordnance on them too.

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          • Col.(R) Ken says:
            January 31, 2017 at 1:36 am

            Yeah, I would love to do a gun run on those squirrels, after Artillery has prep the KZ……. come in from the east, just as the last rounds drop, Helfires, then rockets, the finished with the chain gun…. and I would pay Uncle Sam for the pleasure!!!!!

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      • MaryfromMarin says:
        January 31, 2017 at 1:12 am

        Wish I could sign up for one of your classes, Col .

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      • czarowniczy says:
        January 31, 2017 at 1:16 am

        I’ve been shooting the M-16/AR plstform since the second week of November 1965. I maneuver best with the help of gravity, unmaneuvering usually requires some leverage and grunting sounds but when I go to the range with my AR I can still put twenty rounds into the 4″ gong at 100 yards with iron sights. Czarina’s pretty good too. Being an engineer I do well on channeling and barriers…boobytraps to if needed. Bitch of it all is even having to think these kibds of actions are necessary.

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        • Col.(R) Ken says:
          January 31, 2017 at 1:25 am

          Yea, Those years spent in aviation dulled my trooper level skills. And once I get down I’m down! It’s still, shoot, move, and commutate. And having a Battalion of A6’s as backup is good.

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  9. MaryfromMarin says:
    January 31, 2017 at 12:55 am

    Interesting…twitter wouldn’t let me post this. No explanation of “going over character limit” or anything. Just barred me from posting it.

    Seems like a good reason for reading it.

    The Western world is on the verge of a civil war to determine if Islam has the right to conquer western civilization or not. Think about that…

    http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-western-world-is-on-verge-of-civil.html?m=1

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  10. Col.(R) Ken says:
    January 31, 2017 at 1:19 am

    Got to close my eyes to check the light discipline, I’m on snow removal detail……..

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  11. MaryfromMarin says:
    January 31, 2017 at 1:23 am

    To ponder–and extremely applicable right now:

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  12. czarowniczy says:
    January 31, 2017 at 1:29 am

    Late news was showing a clip of Julia Dreyfus whining about how her father fled religious persecution in Nazi-occupied France to come to the US and Trump’s orders blah blsh blah.
    Irony of her being Jewish and defending a religion thst has antisemitism as a tenet aside, if this were 1942 would she be protesting the US’s ban on Nazis entering the US? After all, not all Nazis are bad persons…

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  13. ImpeachEmAll says:
    January 31, 2017 at 3:03 am

    The enemy within…

    Remember this and these
    in 2018 at the voting booth.

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  14. ImpeachEmAll says:
    January 31, 2017 at 3:37 am

    Coffee break / tea time.

    Take time for a listen…

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  15. amwick says:
    January 31, 2017 at 7:21 am

    Morning Figments,
    This may be a long day. We need to bring our sweet old dog to the vet. She got up, followed our little routine, but it’s like her batteries are drained. She seems to be resting comfortably, normally she would be at my feet, begging for an extra cookie.. I can’t help but think we may face that awful decision today. All this happened in one day. It’s like something flipped a switch.
    All the news flying around, well, thank goodness for a distraction.

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  16. nyetneetot says:
    January 31, 2017 at 7:55 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
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    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ Czarina! 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
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    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
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    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
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    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Apple Coffee Cake with Crumble Topping and Brown Sugar Glaze!

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  18. Howie says:
    January 31, 2017 at 8:31 am

    Here comes the BORG!
    ENTER THE MATRIX Elon Musk reveals plans to install computers directly into human BRAINS
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2748246/elon-musk-reveals-plans-to-install-computers-directly-into-human-brains/

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  20. WeeWeed says:
    January 31, 2017 at 9:55 am

    Mornin’ kids!

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  21. stella says:
    January 31, 2017 at 10:10 am

    The great Iggy: I guess the ‘party of no’ is now a moniker of honor.

    Neat Alilnskyite trick; declare your opponents illegitimate and fascists and suddenly any tactic up to and including halting the functioning of the state is an act of patriotism.

    Perfectly legal policies are responded to with what is approaching insurrection territory.
    The left’s basic authoritarianism, sense of entitlement and belief in the irreversibility of its central extra constitutional project has it headed down a very dangerous road.

    It is the totalitarian road that was made inevitable when the anti-liberal New Left began its long march through the Democrat party close to fifty years ago.
    They are invoking rhetoric and tactics that, if they do not control themselves, will lead to a national crisis.

    They have grown so accustomed to accommodationist Republicans who were tolerated because they never actually threatened the one party authoritarian project the left embarked on privately in the pre Watergate era and publicly since then that a single non accommodationist president has them showing their true anti liberal, anti democratic, anti American tendencies in full.

    They can’t afford to have the inevitability of their Marxist derived historical determinism shown to be a fraud and so they are essentially engaged in a game of chicken with the rest of us.

    And make no mistake the fate of the country is at stake. If they win this round of chicken, not by intimidating Trump or his voters, but by intimidating the pols necessary to implement Trump’s policies we will have exhausted the last peaceful political chance we had to prevent their project, which has always been to destroy our constitutional republic and replace it with their version of the Paris commune.

    The left is always and everywhere infected with the totalitarian temptation and they appear to be intent, at least many of them, on forcing a showdown of whether they will be granted essential veto power over any even mild dismantling of their engine of coercion and unbridled state power.

    If the rest of us do not blink and instead defend our founding principles it could get ugly very fast. If we do blink it will eventually get ugly anyway but it will be farther down the road.

    But don’t kid yourself, they consider this to the death; the death of our country and as many of us as is necessary to ensure the former.The core of the left already openly talks of killing Trump and rioting, punching and killing people opposed to them. Soros and his many tentacled network is bent on any means necessary to create a closed society utterly dominated by the left’s anti God, anti West, anti political liberty and ultimately anti human ideology.

    Their anti democratic reaction, if it continues will have truly marked January 20 2017 as the beginning of the active phase of the second civil war.

    Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

    I’m seeing a lot of this kind of thought these days.

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    • lovely says:
      January 31, 2017 at 11:23 am

      Neat Alilnskyite trick; declare your opponents illegitimate and fascists and suddenly any tactic up to and including halting the functioning of the state is an act of patriotism.

      This is exactly what the DNC is doing with complicit MSM. Their entire opposition is built in lies and sowing disharmony in the US. The Left elites think they are immune from the alligator they are feeding and antagonizing.

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      • stella says:
        January 31, 2017 at 11:55 am

        Another FB response:

        My only beef is with the notion that this is a relatively recent development, that it’s all about the New Left’s manipulation of an accommodationist GOP. Hardly, imho, because that was a rehash of the radical but now long-forgotten fights that took place in FDR’s first term, as he was jamming the New Deal suppository so far up the hind quarters of the tattered remains of the Republic that the GOP was able merely to beg for mercy. The “loyal opposition” of the Right was eviscerated when Thomas Lamont (Morgan’s right hand man) read the tea leaves of 1929 through the lens of Marx and Wilson. Ever since, the GOP has been a soft Progressive party, with the slight exception of Reagan’s first term. (Read Phyllis Schlaffly’s outstanding history of the GOP and the repeated betrayals of Lamont’s insiders in ’36, ’40, and ’44.) No, one reason why the Left is apoplectic is precisely *because* they have forgotten the price that was paid on their behalf was not for a future Revolution, but for a Fabian transformation. Now, God willing, they will be stripped of both.

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      • czarowniczy says:
        January 31, 2017 at 11:56 am

        If you are a student of revolutionary war/counterinsurgency none of this is new or surprising, it’s boilerplate.

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    • Sharon says:
      January 31, 2017 at 7:30 pm

      An old saying that reflects the same dynamic: “When a man’s heart is set against a man, anything that man does or says becomes further cause to hate him.”

      Opponents with real or perceived power who are not rationale are somewhat more dangerous at times that those who still have some self-awareness/links to reality.

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  22. stella says:
    January 31, 2017 at 10:28 am

    Vote on Jeff Sessions’ nomination going on now.

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  23. Wooly Phlox says:
    January 31, 2017 at 11:09 am

    Scott Adams nails it:

    Be careful what you wish for, especially if it is Hitler.

    But lately I get the feeling that Trump’s critics have evolved from expecting Trump to be Hitler to preferring it. Obviously they don’t prefer it in a conscious way. But the alternative to Trump becoming Hitler is that they have to live out the rest of their lives as confirmed morons. No one wants to be a confirmed moron. And certainly not after announcing their Trump opinions in public and demonstrating in the streets. It would be a total embarrassment for the anti-Trumpers to learn that Trump is just trying to do a good job for America. It’s a threat to their egos. A big one.

    And this gets me to my point. When millions of Americans want the same thing, and they want it badly, the odds of it happening go way up. You can call it the power of positive thinking. It is also the principle behind affirmations. When humans focus on a desired future, events start to conspire to make it happen.

    I’m not talking about any new-age magic. I’m talking about ordinary people doing ordinary things to turn Trump into an actual Hitler. For example, if protesters start getting violent, you could expect forceful reactions eventually. And that makes Trump look more like Hitler. I can think of dozens of ways the protesters could cause the thing they are trying to prevent. In other words, they can wish it into reality even though it is the very thing they are protesting.

    In the 3rd dimension of persuasion, the protesters need to be proven right, and they will do whatever it takes to make that happen. So you might see the protesters inadvertently create the police state they fear.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:
      January 31, 2017 at 11:27 am

      Comment from Haven Monahan at VP:

      I find all this Trump being Hitler narrative confusing. If Trump really is the second coming of Hitler, why are so many People of Color (PoC) still fighting to come and migrate to America? Shouldn’t the PoC already in the US be heading for the exits like many Jews did in Germany in the ’30’s? And why are so many liberals assisting and encouraging these PoC to come to America if these PoC are only going to end up as gas chamber fodder in the coming years? I do not remember Hitler having to build a border wall to keep the Jews from trying to immigrate in massive numbers into Nazi Germany.

      It seems to me if Trump really were Hitler II, people would be acting differently?

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      • stella says:
        January 31, 2017 at 11:42 am

        Trump is more Churchill than Hitler.

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        • Wooly Phlox says:
          January 31, 2017 at 11:54 am

          I agree on “more”, as in, leaning toward. He does.

          Donald J. Trump will never tell the world what Churchill told the world about the Islamic faith. Churchill’s balls are currently at rest, like a sword in a stone. Not even Trump could retrieve that sword. Churchill spoke truth fearlessly.

          Quoting this gets you arrested in Jolly Old England now:

          How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

          The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property—either as a child, a wife, or a concubine—must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science—the science against which it had vainly struggled—the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

          I’m waiting for President Donald J. Trump to speak like that.

          And I’m not holding my breath.

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        • czarowniczy says:
          January 31, 2017 at 5:12 pm

          Hitler was a master at galvanizing the masses and had he let the professional military tun the war instead of making stupid drug-enhanced decisions things would have been very different. I have no issues with Hitler’s mastery of political salesmanship, his agenda was the problem. Throw out the baby with the bath water at your own peril, had Obama been a slightly better orator and not so obvious and quick-to-shoot with his agenda things may have been different here as well.

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          • Wooly Phlox says:
            January 31, 2017 at 5:48 pm

            Many on the right, IIRC, thought that Obama was Hitler II. That he would be putting Christians, conservative Jews, and conservatives in “The Camps”.

            Didn’t happen. Either Progs aren’t as smart, nor as evil as we thought they were. Probably a combination of both.

            During GWB’s 8 years of being called “Bushitler” by the left, they were free to give Zombie a photographic legacy, complete with inflated scrota and communist literature, Cindy Sheehan camped out in a ditch in Crawford at his actual home for MONTHS, and also, like during Obama’s reign, nobody got sent to The Camps.

            But GWB was Hitler! Literally Hitler! Nope.

            Just SMH.

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    • czarowniczy says:
      January 31, 2017 at 1:05 pm

      Connect your target with a universally known and despised figure….boiiiiiler plaaaaate.

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  24. czarowniczy says:
    January 31, 2017 at 11:39 am

    All right, ZM, European Court of Human Rights has ruled that Moslem children in Switzerland cannot be exempted from mixed-sex swimming lessons. If ya gets a chance see if you can send us a few pix of them young girls doing competition in abayas and hijabs.

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  25. czarowniczy says:
    January 31, 2017 at 11:53 am

    Fox is repeating the new Canadian line that the Quebec shooter was a far rightwing radical nationalist with extremist views. Waiting for them to say that they believe he was pushed over the edge by Trump’s far rightwing nationalist extremist travel ban orders.
    They are wrenching the narrative to the ‘only one shooter’ scenario and aren’t even answering eyewitnesses’ continuing statements that there were two shooters. Now the government may just be trying not to roil the waters so as to not make a second suspect nervous or they are setting up their own colline herbeuse.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:
      January 31, 2017 at 12:07 pm

      Grassy knoll. Got it.

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    • lovely says:
      January 31, 2017 at 12:36 pm

      I wish I made a screen shot because when his name was first released someone on Twitter said he was a feminist and had a link to a page (FB ?) with Alexandre Bissonnette
      and the sign of feminism next to him. I was in a hurry and thought I’d get back to it but it completely disappeared.

      I’m not buying into so many wrong reports about 2 shooters, reloading and it suddenly turing into a lone shooter scenario.

      Something stinks.

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    • Howie says:
      January 31, 2017 at 2:09 pm

      They are burying the muzzie in some deep cover witness protection program I bet.

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  26. czarowniczy says:
    January 31, 2017 at 12:01 pm

    Anyone seen/heard from our kosherkitchen gnosher?

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  27. Wooly Phlox says:
    January 31, 2017 at 12:02 pm

    … setting up their own colline herbeuse.

    Huh?

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  28. lovely says:
    January 31, 2017 at 12:23 pm

    Linda Sarsour’s Muslim Identity Politics Epitomize Feminism’s Hypocrisy

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/24/linda-sarsours-muslim-identity-politics-epitomize-feminisms-hypocrisy/

    The Women’s March had a high number of disabled participants, but a disability can also be characterized by how you think. An entire group of women, particularly women of color, have adopted the disability of self-victimization, even going so far as to ask “white-women” participating in the march to observe and make space for women of color. In other words, move to the back of the bus. The longer this march had room to grow and organize, the more divisive and overbearing it became.

    As a result, modern feminism as represented in the Women’s March on Washington surges with hatred and subjugation of anything or anyone that deviates from its groupthink. Modern feminism has become a cult that punishes women, that dehumanizes and parcels the gift of creative power under clinical terms like “reproductive health.” It’s a pseudo-religion that raises pitchforks against the faintest hints of sexism while ignoring real human issues like Yazidi sex slaves, Saudi Arabia’s guardianship system, and the epidemic of migrant rapes in Europe.

    From the same cloth of a modern women’s movement, you have women who champion themselves as advocates of women’s rights but are comfortable with calls for rape of female public figures including the first lady, who has been subjected to slut-shaming by leftists who believe that anyone who doesn’t subscribe to their political ideology is fair game.

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  29. czarowniczy says:
    January 31, 2017 at 1:18 pm

    TV touting that both Mars and Venus will be so bright they can be seen in the city’s sky tonite…pitiful. However, for moongoddess devotees, Venus will be bright and visible directly above the horns of the crescent moon. A sign for those, rife with religious indignation over Trump’s orders, that they should feel it’s OK to kill nonbelievers. If they die in the process they are guaranteed half a gross of virgins, sex and species to be determined, and free expedited entry into the buffet of their choice.

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  30. stella says:
    January 31, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    My answer to the “protesters of everything”:

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  31. czarowniczy says:
    January 31, 2017 at 1:38 pm

    Sorta wondering if one of Trump’s goals isn’t to activate and rev-up thst revolutionary spirit among the Right just as Obama and his guerrilla buds did the left-overs? He has a guaranteed four years to breathe life back into the beaten down Right. The next four years might be iffy if he doesn’t wake up that segment of America he barely captured last November, but if he can keep up the pace he can move the once active conservatives.

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  32. lovely says:
    January 31, 2017 at 1:49 pm

    Some reporter babe was whining at Sean Spicer about the confusion surrounding the temporary vetting process (she of course did not call it that 🙄) and Spicer totally cut her off at the knees by telling her that her network was part of the problem because her network is promoting false and misleading stories. The woman said “In all fairness MSNBC was reporting on a NY Times story.” Sean Spicer not missing a beat said “Well I’m sorry that you are reporting misleading news using fake news from the NY times as your source.”

    Spicer is very good at what he does, he is not slick, he is a sympathetic character and he shows his exasperation with the disingenuous press and their “one sided” manipulative questions. He is also very good at rephrasing their questions as they should be posed in order to be a legitimate question.

    I’ve yet to see him allow the pack of jackals to paint him into a corner. The pack looks rude, biased and hostile, Spicer comes across as well measured and conciliatory but firm. And he looks like he is the one speaking from a point of knowledge to a bunch of unruly school kids.

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  33. lovely says:
    January 31, 2017 at 2:02 pm

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  34. stella says:
    January 31, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    If anybody here was wondering, This is why she was fired.

    …A few quick observations. First, the statement seems to indicate that the executive order was reviewed by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, which apparently concluded that the executive order was lawful. Second, Yates does not claim that she cannot defend the executive order because it is unconstitutional or because the Justice Department would be unable to offer good-faith arguments in defense of its legality. To the contrary, Yates claims she is ordering the Justice Department not to defend the executive order because it is not “wise or just.” This is quite significant. I am not aware of any instance in which the Justice Department has refused to defend a presumptively lawful executive action on this basis.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/01/30/acting-attorney-general-orders-justice-department-attorneys-not-to-defend-immigration-executive-order/?utm_term=.00830b5809d1

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  35. lovely says:
    January 31, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    I know you are on strike this week Stella, but I want to say thank you for all the work, time, research and self you put into your blog. I really enjoy and benefit from your work so I apologize for not telling you or being more active in the threads that you start on subjects outside of the “daily thread” you are very much appreciated even if it is not spoken or doesn’t seem so to you.

    I miss your beautiful pictures and your other posts but I hope you enjoy your week off, (but not so much that you decide to take a permanent vacation) ❤️

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  36. stella says:
    January 31, 2017 at 3:41 pm

    Seen on FB:

    I must admit I have been less engaged in the day-to-day minutiae, now that the Left is no longer dictating policy. I’m just tired of having my life carjacked on a regular basis by whatever freshly minted Chinese puzzle box of lies was popped out of the Soros-funded enclaves this morning. Engaging and deconstructing each labyrinthine pile of dezinformatsiya is a fractal, Sisyphean time-suck.

    I have noted and commented though, that the hard Left appears to be cynically burning their dupes in an inferno of hysterical angst as a prelude to a greater conflagration. Another Days of Rage retread, it seems.

    I’m curious – what do all of you think the odds/timing are that this current rhetorical anaphylaxis turns the smoldering unrest into something much more serious? I see “Civil War” being thrown around. What does everyone think about them finally achieving that?

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    • Rhea Salacia Volans says:
      January 31, 2017 at 4:11 pm

      Massachusetts has made me angry. We had a Civil War already and it determined that a central gov’t gets to tell the state’s what to do. MA was on the wrong side of that war and right side lost so they can toe the line and enforce the immigration suspension.

      As for a second war, that depends how far the left will go to get what they want. Personally, I put nothing past them.

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      January 31, 2017 at 4:16 pm

      What I have been expecting. 😦

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    • czarowniczy says:
      January 31, 2017 at 5:40 pm

      Is this going yo be a real one or will the Left only use weapons tested by the Consumer Protection Agency and made from green, sustainable, free trade and recycled profucts while the Right will be demanding beer timeouts with fully-loaded nachos?
      They all seem to be wearing wussy hats of one sort or another lately.

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  39. czarowniczy says:
    January 31, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    On a slightly different note, that cute little grapefruit-sized puppy I brought home last summer is now 65 pounds with a neck like a bull. Definately a pit bull/labrador cross, must’ve been one helluva party.

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    • Sharon says:
      February 1, 2017 at 12:34 am

      We had a pit bull/German Shepherd for some years. Each of our dogs was stupendous in and of themselves, but he was something special. Scary intelligent. We learned never to get in a staring contest with him. His name was Bear. Thunder storms scared him to trembling but other than that, he ruled whatever world he occupied.

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      • czarowniczy says:
        February 1, 2017 at 12:46 am

        My dear old girl, the Border Collie, is about 11 now. She’s 85 pounds, has a bit of arthritis and is getting gray, gray, gray. She’s scary smart, I talk to her in full sentences, she picks out the words and does it…if she wants to. If she doesn’t she’ll let me know and we negotiate.
        She came to us when Zauber, the 130# GSD, was about 5. I let him see her thru the French doors for a few days until he was used to seeing her and cautiously let her in. He stared at her…she ran right over, bulldozed him with her chest and started pulling out the huge ruff around his neck. Not a complaint out of him but they were friends until he died. She never let him grow that ruff back though.
        She turns into a toothy buzzsaw with the pit cross, letting him know his place. When he eats kibble from the community tub hectakes a mouth full, walks away and eats it some place else…he can eat, just not at her bowl. She keeps the place from becoming a circus.

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  40. Wooly Phlox says:
    January 31, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    Spin:

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  41. Wooly Phlox says:
    January 31, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    One more, on a Super Nintendo chipset:

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  42. czarowniczy says:
    January 31, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    OH YGOSH!!! Entire entertainment world’s agog over Lady Gaggag…’scuse mem Gaga, and the possibility of her making a political statement during her Super Bowl halftime show. Well, I’m certainly sitting on the edge of my Barkolounger, I get all of my most important political views from women who wear dresses made out of raw London broil.
    And where was PETA on that? Hypocrites of the Left, unite!

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  43. sandandsea2015 says:
    January 31, 2017 at 8:17 pm

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  44. lovely says:
    January 31, 2017 at 10:32 pm

    Exactly what Scott Adams was talking about. Folks are gathering outside of Schumer’s apartment. We are in for a hell of a ride. Schumer would do well to buy some alligator repellent.

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