General Discussion, Saturday, January 7, 2017

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  1. czarowniczy says:

    One less day of Obama…

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  2. Jacqueline Robson says:

    This is what it’s like in the south when we expect snow! I sure hope it works!

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    • Jacqueline Robson says:

      This comedian is Darren Knight. He does these “Southern Momma” videos and they are hilarious. This is so true!

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    • Menagerie says:

      This is too hilarious. I think some of those were things my mama said. She was a very firm believer in hitting the stores at the first mention of snow, and then again right before the snow started, and she would fill the gas tank up on every car we owned.

      Mama believed in never running out of bread, milk, and toilet paper.

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      • michellc says:

        My son-in-law stopped at the store after work yesterday and he said there was no milk except almond milk and buttermilk. Bread aisle didn’t have one loaf of bread, only rolls and buns.
        Our county didn’t even get a snowflake. lol

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    • lovely says:

      When southerners hear it is going to snow 🙂

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  3. MaryfromMarin says:

    Crossover, for Gen/Disc and Caturday threads:

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  4. czarowniczy says:

    Ther were some posts yesterday about revolution/dissolution in Mexico and problems in DHS. I lost the thread as myiPad starts acting strange when there’s a large number of posts in a thread.
    Anyway, it should be of no surprise to anyone in the government when Mexico melts down, there are any number contingency plans thst have been done on exactly that theme over the years by a number of agencies.
    Of course if some members of the government were planning on using the meltdown and resultant tsunami of immigrants flooding the border for their own purposes, welllllll…..
    As for DHS being….troubled…it was a gimme it would be. I was assigned to Customs when it was folded into DHS. All or part of 22 agencies were folded into DHS and most had problems. Actually, thry had problems at close of individual business the day before DHS was formed, as of opening (most showed up on time) it was a new day, a new agency and all problems were forgiven as the old agencies either didn’t exist any more. Those agencies that only gave up a fragment of their being received a bye as they ‘touched’ a virginal entity and could also blame their problems on that portion of them that was transferred….you know, that portion whose sins were forgiven. Neat, no?
    Errors created for a period (undetermined) after DHS was formed can be blamed on the learning curve needed to adapt to a new mission though a lot can be hidden under the closk of nstionsl security.
    I’d posted this before next door (saying that a lot lately) years ago, nothing startling about this, it just how the Feds ‘work’. You can bet that when that Mexican meltdown occurs and hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of immigrants fleeing the mess hit our border the government will feign surprise as they flow over. Nothing will be done to stop or return them, on the contrary the government will be mobilized to feed, cloth and shelter them, then find them places to stay here on humanitarian grounds. The US will get its 51st state, or 53rd if Puerto Rico and DC get their green cards, and we’ll get….well, you know.

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:

      It’s going to be a real mess, big time mess…….and that wall will not stop anything…..

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    • nyetneetot says:

      People are not understanding what undoing 30 years bad policy that some made money off of, is going to do when prices of cheap Mexico fruits and non union product goes through the roof due to transportation costs.

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      • MaryfromMarin says:

        On the other hand, we may get less produce which has been watered…creatively, IYKWIM.

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      • ImpeachEmAll says:

        Let’m keep their wormy fruit of the loom.

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      • Menagerie says:

        There are a crap ton of people who think we are going to wake up to a new, fresh, squeaky clean and fixed world on January 21st.

        She me things will get better eventually, but some are going to get worse first. You have to tear things down to rebuild, and you have a lot to do to even get to rebuild when things are so bad.

        I expect some things might move faster as Trump does not accept the D.C. excuses and logjam, and he just takes his case bluntly to the people. But that does not mean instant fixes.

        We have a deeply corrupt government with entrenched civil servants protected by law. That alone is fearsome.

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        • nyetneetot says:

          Countries have gone to war over the economic reset caused by other countries trying to clean their own house. Fortunes built in the last 30 years by opportunists gaming the system will become the poster children against Trump for the socialists. With all the sabotage, it will be closer the end of Trump’s first term before things get to the point that the general public sees things as better.

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        • michellc says:

          I keep hearing it from both sides, those who think over night it’s all magically going to be fixed to those who think nothing will change.
          I think it will change, but I also think that change will come with a knock down, drag out fight and change will bring about some pain to pockets. Food and clothing among other things will cost more.

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        • I definitely think this will be one of those “has to get worse before it gets better” things. You can’t undo many, many years of corruption and incompetence overnight. Sometimes i get really upset or excited about things I don’t like in gov’t, and think, Trump will fix that! Then I stop and remind myself that he can’t fix everything, and certainly not all at once either. There will have to be some triaging.

          The wall between us and Mexico should be his top, number one priority.

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        • Col.(R) Ken says:

          If I remember correctly, when Reagan took over in 1980, wasn’t until 82-83 things looked better.

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          • Menagerie says:

            And he was leader enough that he told us it was going to get worse first and asked us to pull through it. Reagan had his opponents, but the country was a lot less polarized back then.

            To be fair, myself am a lot more polarized now, there is no denying it.

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        • joshua says:

          those of us that watched as children, our parents deal with wartime rationing and doing without stuff are NOT worried…only the whiney and pathetic need WORRY…the rest of us will just “pick up our bed and walk.”

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        • Wooly Phlox says:

          Reagan fired all the air traffic controllers, upon assuming the Presidency,

          Let us hope Trump makes that look like child’s play.

          13 days.

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          • MaryfromMarin says:

            I’d like to see Trump fire all the TSA, employees and bureaucrats. He’s made a start with BHO’s foreign diplomats.

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            • Wooly Phlox says:

              The ENTIRE T.S.A.

              You’re FiRED!

              I would dance in the streets if I got to see those layabouts, perverts, and Affirmative Action thieves fired, all at once.

              And I don’t dance. But I would.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        The Democrat policy of wholesale bussing in illegals to pad voting districts hasn’t helped either. They brought in and pardoned millions in just the last twenty or so years and, had this last election not stopped it, they’d have shoveled in millions more for a political sea change in 2018.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        It’s a balance scale, it will cause some problems and solve some problems. Can’t toss a boulder into a pond without making waves.

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    • joshua says:

      “next door” is getting cluttered up by a lot of fairly lame speculation and blather. Love SD comments bringing sanity back….but I come here to calm down away from the crazies. This has my personal form of craziness that I love and admire.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      I love me some Apple products. Their customer service is wonderful, when you have to call them every other week! I’ve never had a disappointing call to Apple customer service, when I’ve had to call them every other week. They rock.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        My iPad has more bugs than a Tijuana public toilet, it makes Windows 10 look user friendly.

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        • Wooly Phlox says:

          I’ve only ever had to call MS customer service about three times, and always for a billing issue, never because their stuff didn’t work. Every time they resolved the issue in my favor, with a smile and an accent.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      From all the news from next door, it seems that Mexico is our 51st state, for all intents and purposes.

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  5. Col.(R) Ken says:

    Morning Everyone!!! It’s 1* here, wind at 10 WNW. My stove is hot, had to refill the kettle on top 2 times this evening. That’s 2qts times 2 equals 4qts which is one gallon (US). And that my Math for today….. I’m going to stretch out, and keep the fire going thru the night….wood box/coal lumps full. Oh that clean coal, anthracite… stay warm, off the roads…

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  6. Wooly Phlox says:

    Good morning!

    Crank it up. Goes good with coffee or tea.

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  7. Wooly Phlox says:

    More audio for breakfast. Cohen, for the win.

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  8. Wooly Phlox says:

    Madeleine Peyrox is my future ex-wife.

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  9. Wooly Phlox says:

    Good night, Stellars.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

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      • derk says:

        Artwork is for above, this is a great rendition, thanks Wooly.

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      • Wooly Phlox says:

        I walked to the beer store (only one open) after midnight, last night. Wearing my Cruel Boots. It’s about a mile away, not a long walk. Snowing and silence the whole way. Quite a beautiful walk.

        My kitteh-mamma just happened to be there when I was checking out, and gave me a ride back. She was (and is) Tripod’s “owner” (as if) at the vets. She used to come to the alley every night to feed the kittehs, but doesn’t any more, and is kinda miffed that I took him inside (how could I not?, he’s 12.) I live in the apartment that she lived in, while owning the seedy bar beneath her, which is now a clothing store.

        I told her all about him, on the ride. Yup, he’s on my bed. Yup, he’s purring. Nope, he doesn’t have to worry about winter any more. He’s home.

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    • derk says:

      Really enjoy the accompanying art show, beautiful

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      Listen to how monaural her audio is, and how wide the stereo field.

      Astounding.

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  10. ImpeachEmAll says:

    7.6 °F or -13.6 °C

    Active Advisory: Gale Warning

    Good news, warming up. 😉

    Still, though, time for another log…

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  11. amwick says:

    Good morning Figments,,, little tidbit if you are curious:http://www.southhaven.com/south-haven-mi-lighthouse.shtml
    No snow or ice here… just cold, cold rain. There will be no tennis.. again. On a happy note, we did see a nice small boat at the show,,, it is a Stingray deckboat.

    0 to 36knots (41mph (way too fast)) in 3 seconds… 90HP yamaha is standard on this little thing.

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  12. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ Czarina! 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! 🙂 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! 🙂 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! 🙂 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! 🙂 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) 🙂 |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! 🙂 |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! 🙂 |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney 🙂 |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Cinnamon rolls for coffee!

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  13. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids!

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  14. WeeWeed says:

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  15. derk says:

    Good Morning Stella, and stellar types imagined or real,
    Bit under the weather, actually drinking some of Mary’s tea this morning, sprinkled with EmergenC.
    Supposedly snowed a tad here last night, nothing like some of you have had or having. California cold with 10 days of varying degrees of rain headed our way. yay.

    Great pic Stella, I’ll definitely visit Michigan in the summertime.
    Have a great day y’all.

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  16. derk says:

    Watching last night’s Lou Dobbs show on FBN. First segment in regards to “Russian Hacking” with Col. Ralph Peters. Epic.
    They get into heated shouting match with the Col. defending the intelligence community and is so angry he is about to blow up, and Lou just keeps coming at him.
    Say they are friends, don’t think for much longer. Tried to find a link but wasn’t able. I recorded it but can’t transfer. if you can find it, worth the watch.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      If they are friends, they’ll get over this.

      If Peters is bought and paid for by the Uniparty, then they won’t, because then argument and debate is pointless, because you cannot argue with an ideologue who is paid to hold a position.

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:

      Oh yes!!!! Col. Ralph “5 minute manager” Peters., I was Captain when I met him. Ralph is red, white, blue. Sometimes his focus is weed level instead of tree top level…….never served or worked for him……

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      • joshua says:

        re his squeeky voice….did he sit down wrong at some time on his chair, with worn out shorts?

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      • derk says:

        Hear he voted Hillary though, makes me wonder how ‘patriotic” one can be.

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      • The Tundra PA says:

        I find him irritating in the extreme. And last night he was just off the chart bonkers with Lou. Been hitting the KoolAide. I’ve never understood why he is such a hot item on Fox. Whiny voice, unappealing appearance, and never adds anything of substance or clarity to the topic being discussed. And just strikes me as a beta male, not a strong military man. And DH (a retired O6 like yourself) always secretly wants to ask retired O5s how they f’d up their careers that they didn’t make O6. All in all, I wish Lt. Col. Peters would fade into the woodwork.

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  17. Heard a news story today that discussed increased security at Indianapolis Int’ntl Airport until the police can determine why the terrorist attack in Ft. Lauderdale happened. I’m almost to the point I’m going to offer to buy Korans for these people to read and see if they can figure it out. I’m not sure if they’re stupid, completely ignorant, or willfully ignorant. Then again, I’m an irate 9/12er, so what do I know?

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  18. amwick says:

    I need opinions on something….( I have an issue with my HOA ) would you consider bronze (darkish not bright) a neutral color? I would appreciate some honest thoughts,,, please. TY

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      When I worked for a seamless gutter company “Bronze” was just dark brown. I never understood why the company that made the colors called it Bronze and not just Dark Brown.

      In the Navy, they told us our Dress Blues were Blue. No. They’re black. Put ’em to a spectrograph. They’re black. But you had better say they’re blue. You say something is what it isn’t because that’s what you’re told to say.

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      • amwick says:

        TY Mr. Phlox. THe HOA claims bronze (darkish brown) is not neutral. I think that is arbitrary.

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        • Wooly Phlox says:

          Ask the HOA to ask “bronze” it’s opinion on, say, quantitative easing, or immigration.

          I’m guessing bronze will be neutral on the matter.

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        • ImpeachEmAll says:

          Bronze his family jewels
          and see if that does not
          neutralize him. 😉

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        • Menagerie says:

          Bronze where? Walls? Windows? Exterior surface I’m assuming? If there is a wide variation in tone between what you call bronze and the darkest color found in other homes I doubt you will win this one. Most HOAs are dictatorships of a few powerful people who need to be a big fish in a small pond and consequently will fight tooth, claw, and nail to win every pronouncement they make.

          Also, in my opinion bronze is a metallic finish, not just dark brown. Just like silver is not gray.

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          • amwick says:

            It is a tint on some vinyl windows… for a patio…. The windows will be behind grey/dark screens…

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            • amwick says:

              The president of the HOA is my closest neighbor. THis has me very disturbed because the rules and the wording are vague….

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            • joshua says:

              what are the rules regarding Curtain Colors, assuming No Tint to glass and just Clear?….seems to me that if you have no rules on curtains, the tint color concern is foolish.

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              • amwick says:

                It is all foolish… but it cost me a lot of money…. and they have never tried to require this bs before… At least 8 or 9 other homes installed these windows and never applied for any permission… they just did it. Because my neighbor is on the board, she told me I had to apply, and they turned down the application… because brown is not neutral…..
                I told my husband that I would like to move, seriously, buy another house…

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                • Wooly Phlox says:

                  Just nail a swastika on her mailbox. I would.

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                • stella says:

                  Seems like you have grounds for a protest. Do you have a lawyer who can write a pointed letter to the HOA? Perhaps you should insist that the other 8 or 9 remove and replace their windows.

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                  • amwick says:

                    They chose to have either clear or charcoal grey… but they never had their projects approved.. that is my point.. the bronze (brown) goes with my house, and as a tint, it is very hard to tell the difference,,, it isn’t paint it is a vinyl tint..

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                  • Wooly Phlox says:

                    Ask the HOA/slash/Your neighbor this:

                    What about black, or white? Given politics lately, are either of those “neutral” colors?

                    SF authors and conspiracy theorists (I repeat myself) once said that all matter would be replaced by a “Grey Goo”, when molecular, AI-posesssing devices would replicate themselves after absorbing all molecular matter in their path.

                    These writers were only slightly off the mark.

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                  • Wooly Phlox says:

                    Amwick, it all has to be grey.

                    You can one-up them, though, and call your color choice Earl Grey.

                    White people!

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                  • amwick says:

                    BTW, I think this is a really good idea, except the amount of money involved makes it kinda not worth it… If it was thousands of dollars I would be calling a lawyer.

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                • joshua says:

                  “Hands up, don’t tint”….that is not a neutral statement either.

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      • nyetneetot says:

        “Dress Blues” has a slang origin. It was the color of “service” uniforms for maids a few hundred years ago. It’s where the blue police “service” uniform comes from as well.
        In the military, dress uniforms traditionally have been “service” uniforms of the past that have become ceremonial rather than functional. At least the men’s uniforms, that is.

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    • derk says:

      neutral, definitely. Have not looked at answers below, =D

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  19. Wooly Phlox says:

    Awesome picture of my lighthouse, Stella!

    I’d go down and snap a pic, but no. Too cold.

    They just renovated it, too.

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  20. ImpeachEmAll says:

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  21. stella says:

    Walker finds two guns in a violin case along Potomac River in Washington D.C. – leading cops to locate even more weapons nearby

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4089284/Guns-violin-case-weapons-Potomac-DC.html

    A number of weapons, including two guns in a violin case, have been found stashed along the Potomac River in Washington D.C.

    U.S. Park Police said a woman walking in the woods near the C&O Canal, which runs along the river, found the case on Wednesday.

    When police arrived they found more guns and ammunition stashed in pails and garbage bags nearby.

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  22. michellc says:

    Keeping our fingers crossed, but my daughter thinks the baby turned during the night. She says it feels as if she’s up and down. I will say her stomach looks more round now instead of looking kind of oval shaped. You can also feel her uterus up higher than it was.
    We’ll find out for sure this week.

    Just a little over 6 weeks to go. It’s a good thing this was her second pregnancy, because as rough as it’s been on her, I probably would have gotten only one grandchild from her. 🙂

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Glad she is doing well.

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      • michellc says:

        She says she can’t tell if she’s head up or head down, but she’s getting some relief. I never carried one sideways, so don’t know how it feels, but she says it’s painful.

        They say it’s dangerous if they stay sideways, because although possible to have one butt or feet first, no way to have one sideways without a c-section and even then a c-section is a bit more difficult.
        I guess it’s really dangerous if your water is to break while they’re transverse because it can rupture the cord.

        Hopefully if she has definitely turned, she has turned head down and will keep her little self that way.

        I’ve tried not to dwell on all the bad stuff the doctor has said, but it’s hard not to. It’s been stressful on me with all the worry of premature labor when she was head down in the birth canal then with her being sideways and all the bad stuff that could result, so I can’t imagine the stress she’s been going through.

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          I pray she will be fine and the baby will be also.

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          • michellc says:

            I know she’s concerned and she has a little of the worry wart from her Mama.
            She didn’t stay in that position long. My daughter told me about 30 minutes ago she felt her rolling again and is back to her favorite position.

            I had to go to town and was talking to this lady who was telling me that her second child was transverse and they had scheduled a c-section at 39 weeks because they did an ultrasound at 38 weeks and she was still transverse. Then on the day of the scheduled c-section, she told them she thought she had moved and the doctor felt and thought so too and they did another ultrasound to confirm and sure enough she was head down.
            They told her they were going to go ahead and let her go into labor on her own and canceled her c-section and sent her home. As she was leaving the hospital her water broke and she gave birth to her 2 hours later.
            So I guess you can’t ever count them out from getting in the right position. The doctor had told her there was no way she would be able to turn because she was too big and didn’t have enough room.
            The doctor had also kept telling her that because she measuring so small she would only weigh about 5 lbs, although the ultrasound was measuring her to be 6lbs. 8 oz, she ended up weighing 8lbs 1oz.

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            • auscitizenmom says:

              I knew my son was going to be a good sleeper, even as an infant, because when I went to bed at night I would lie on my back for a little bit and he would be squirming all around. My husband would call him by name and tell him “your mother is tired and needs to go to sleep.” I would turn on my side and he would make this big turn and settle down. He never woke me at night.

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            • auscitizenmom says:

              A friend of mine married when she was very young. Her periods quit and the doctor tested her to see if she was pregnant. He said she wasn’t. They did some tests and told her she had a tumor. But, she got bigger and bigger and eventually gave birth to a big baby. I don’t know why he kept denying she was pregnant. I think they were supposed to do an operation, but she kept putting it off.

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              • michellc says:

                Doctors are often stubborn and think they know more than they do.
                I knew a lady once who was given 3 or 4 pregnancy tests and they kept being negative. She was 6 months pregnant before the doctors would accept that the tests were wrong and she convinced one to listen for a heartbeat.

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              • WeeWeed says:

                He was probably from Vanderbilt. Seriously. Had a few run-ins with V grads. No bueno.

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        • lovely says:

          I should have kept reading before I responded. I hope she turns and stays turned. 🙏🏼

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          • michellc says:

            I’m still taking it as a good sign that she turned for a short while, so maybe that means she hasn’t settled on a position.
            My daughter said at least she gave her some relief for awhile.

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            • lovely says:

              Agreed the baby may be sensing that she needs to get into a more tenable position. I can’t imagine she herself is comfortable turned sideways.

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              • michellc says:

                You’d think not.
                My daughter has been doing the things they told her to do to try and get her to turn.
                She’s ordered a pregnancy belt as well because they said sometimes your ligaments can be loose when you’ve been pregnant before and it causes the baby to do that.
                I don’t understand why after she was head down, she decided to flip around anyway. I’m glad she moved up, but sure wish she she hadn’t moved into this position.

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                • auscitizenmom says:

                  Uh oh. Seems like she might be contrary, as my mother used to say. We will have to wait a year or so to see if she always wants to do things her own way and she is already starting now. :/

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                  • michellc says:

                    I’ve said since the first ultrasound I watched that she is going to be ornery.
                    She absolutely hates to be poked and goes crazy when they started moving the ultrasound wand around. The same with the doppler.
                    My daughter says that Daddy pokes her at night and she starts kicking and punching like crazy.

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                  • auscitizenmom says:

                    LOL Yep. She sounds like a pistol.

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                  • michellc says:

                    She’s probably going to have to be, to keep up with big brother.

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                  • auscitizenmom says:

                    LOL

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                  • auscitizenmom says:

                    I remember a friend telling me her second granddaughter was something else. The older sister was maybe 3 or 4 and was always taking the little one’s toys away. The baby couldn’t even sit up on her own yet. So, one day, the older one reached into the playpen and the baby waited until she got to where she could reach her hair and grabbed her on both sides and wouldn’t let go. The older child left her alone after that. The grandmother felt like the baby knew exactly what she was doing.

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                  • michellc says:

                    I was kidding my daughter one day about her soon to be future of hearing, “Mom he took that, Mom she won’t leave me alone!”

                    She told me she was just going to be like me and say, “make him give it back or make her leave, unless someone is bleeding I don’t want to hear Mom again.”
                    I told her I don’t remember saying that, but I’m not going to deny I said it, because I might have. lol

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                  • auscitizenmom says:

                    I had a daycare child who cried at everything that happened, no matter how small and insignificant, and I told her that. “There has to be blood.”

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                  • michellc says:

                    That may be why my kids fought like cats and dogs, because I rarely solved their problems and when I did they didn’t much care for my methods.
                    To this day they say the worst punishment was making them hug and say they were sorry when they were mad and not sorry. lol

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                  • joshua says:

                    us male types are so definitely out of our experience and element in these kinda discussions……just wishing everyone that all turns out the very best.

                    trouble for me, is all this discussion of turning got me musing about the Byrds Song and the lyrics ….

                    To everything (turn, turn, turn)
                    There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
                    And a time to every purpose, under heaven

                    A time to be born………………………….

                    The Byrds – Turn! Turn! Turn!

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                  • auscitizenmom says:

                    I think we can accept that as a worthy contribution to the discussion. LOLhttps://widgets.wp.com/notificationsbeta/2764407854#

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                  • ImpeachEmAll says:

                    The Byrds…

                    Tern, tern, tern.

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                  • lovely says:

                    My two oldest daughters less than 2 years apart used to whine and fight over board games. I warned them several times to stop and that the winner was the winner and the next game might be different.

                    It did no good. So I told them the next time they fought over a game ALL their games were going to be donated to a local thrift store.

                    Of course the next game they got into a fight.

                    So I gave them each a garbage bag told them to fill them up with ever single game in the house we then drove to the thrift store. They cried the whole way there but they had to hand them over to the workers who looked like they felt awful taking them from two sobbing little children.

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    • lovely says:

      Sounds great, I hope the doctor confirms that she is settled in the right way 🙂

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  23. Wooly Phlox says:

    Reposted from above, because it’s apropos and poignant, and repeatable…

    …if Stella doesn’t beat me for it.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      Emeli Sande. Owned that CD for a while.

      Pretty sure the album is Christian. Crypto. As in, not on a “Christian” label.

      Like Mumford & Sons. Like many more new artists.

      Here’s Emeli describing Christ, or a good man.

      Barnhardt said years ago that a good song is one you can imagine God singing to you, or you singing to Him, or one you wouldn’t be ashamed to sing to someone, in front of Him.

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  24. stella says:

    For Downton Abbey fans …

    Jim Carter reveals Downton Abbey cast have been asked to keep dates free for a movie

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-01-07/jim-carter-reveals-downton-abbey-cast-have-been-asked-to-keep-dates-free-for-a-movie

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  25. stella says:

    This is just funny.

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  26. stella says:

    Freddie Gray case: Judge allows malicious prosecution lawsuit against Mosby to proceed

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-mosby-lawsuit-to-proceed-20170106-story.html

    A federal judge is allowing key parts of a lawsuit against Baltimore State’s Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby, brought by five of the six police officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray, to move forward.

    U.S. District Judge Marvin J. Garbis ruled that claims including malicious prosecution, defamation, and invasion of privacy can move forward against Mosby and Assistant Sheriff Samuel Cogen, who wrote the statement of probable cause.

    Mosby’s attorneys had said she has absolute prosecutorial immunity from actions taken as a state’s attorney. But Garbis noted that her office has said it conducted an independent investigation.

    “Plaintiffs’ malicious prosecution claims relate to her actions when functioning as an investigator and not as a prosecutor,” Garbis wrote.

    Other counts, such as false arrest, false imprisonment and abuse of process, were dismissed, as Garbis had signaled he would do at an October hearing. All claims against the state were also dismissed.

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  27. czarowniczy says:

    Whew. Made it all the way to almost 4 PM without the news reporting another local thug shooting, rape, car chase, car jacking, armed robbery, theft of an oceangoing vehicle over 5000 tons…
    Then again there’s no local news until 5 PM, still…….

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  28. Wooly Phlox says:

    It was just an innocent mistake, I’m sure.

    Third-World Hellhole.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/gunman-shoots-wounds-us-consular-official-mexico-162604793.html

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  29. Wooly Phlox says:

    ‘I’ve felt disgust before, but never the kind of fear that you feel now,’ Springsteen said of Trump and the administration he has been building over the past month.
    ‘It’s as simple as the fear of, is someone simply competent enough to do this particular job? Forget about where they are ideologically. Do they simply have the pure competence to be put in the position of such responsibility?’

    Screw you, Bruce. You suck. Blinded By the Light sucked even before you made it worse.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      I would say “Shut up and sing!” to Bruce Springsteen, but no.

      Just shut up. You’re not really all that good at singing, either.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      Actually, before Manfred Mann made it better, I mean.

      Manfred Mann’s band made it suck slightly less. But only slightly.

      Bruce’s version fulfilled one of the 1963 Communist goals.

      Fully.

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  30. Wooly Phlox says:

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-border-wall-20170106-story.html

    Trump insists that Mexico WILL pay for the wall that we build.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      So far the MSM’s still rather silent on the US, in particular the State Department, interfering with Putin’s 2012 election as a motive for his messing with Hillary’s election. Pure payback.

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    • joshua says:

      Mr. Obama is very peregruzka, Mr. Trump. Would you like my people to have a talk with him and his wife in private?

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  31. czarowniczy says:

    A take on the Ft Lauderdale airport shooting. The MSM’s been whining tonite on flyers actually getting to fly with guns checked as baggage. They were saying that the ability to do so should be reviewed.
    I fly with firearms frequently though there’s generally on one pistol and one rifle I’ll fly with as they are both registered to me. My AR with one upper goes with me as I can UPS seperate uppers to my destination and be assured they get there. I can’t send the receivers, have to fly with it as I’m prohibited from shipping them except to someone with a FFL.
    The problem comes in when I disembark the plane, I have to make a mad dash to the baggage claim as my gun case as it goes onto the baggage carousel along with all of the rest of the stuff from the hold. It’s obviously a gun case, no mistaking it, and if I’m just traveling with a pistol the pistol case looks like a pistol case or some sort of case for electronic equipment. You have all of this special crap you have to go thru when you check in but once the airlines get it it’s treated like you suitcase with the dirty undies in it.
    I’ve tried to get them to move the gun case to the office to be picked up – no go. Once, going to Denver, my luggage and gun case were put onto an hour earlier flight as the flight I was on was overbooked and there wasn’t enough room for all of the baggage. I didn’t know until I got to Denver and a note on the board in the claims area told us that some of our baggage, no specifics, had arrived earlier and was available at the other end of the claim area. I had to wait and see what baggage of mine was being offloaded just in case my gun case made it. Nope, suitcase did but no gun case. I take my suitcase and walk to the other end where the eary arriving crap’s stacked and yup, there it is, along with another rifle case, dozens of packed ski sets and not an airline or other security person in sight.
    It’s at the point where I am looking at leaving a rifle and pistol at the homes of friends and family where I hunt, it’s easier than legally trying to travel with one.

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