General Discussion, Monday, October 10, 2016

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  1. texan59 says:
    October 10, 2016 at 12:04 am

    Im’a just leave this here. Have a feelin’ some of ya’z might be up gabbin’ for a spell. Gotta hit the rack. Coffee up y’all. 😀

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  2. czarowniczy says:
    October 10, 2016 at 12:04 am

    Monday! A holiday! Oh, that’s right…never mind.

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    • ImpeachEmAll says:
      October 10, 2016 at 12:10 am

      Every day is a holiday and
      every meal is a banquet. 😉

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    • MaryfromMarin says:
      October 10, 2016 at 12:14 am

      No holiday for me. Some schools, yes, but not mine.

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      • czarowniczy says:
        October 10, 2016 at 12:51 am

        Which is why you deserve a rich retirement. In the first place just being a teacher these days is worthy of combat pay. Until the school dustrict in had a school cop system in place it wasn’t unusual for one of us to be assigned to ride shotgun in a school. The teachers had little control over their classes, were always on the lookout for being assaulted by students, it was the student version of Dodge City.
        Now the schools have full time armed guards, metal detectors and probably snipers perched in tactical positions, but teachers still have large groups of disruptive rabble to deal with. School admin pukes have retreated to their usual position, i.e. blaming the teachers for their students’ problems rather than skewering the parents, while pressing the teachers to do turn lead into gold. Lotta people didn’t want my jobs but at least two of them allowed me to shoot back.

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        • Menagerie says:
          October 10, 2016 at 7:07 am

          It is my absolute core belief that you can never teach without discipline, and they have made discipline illegal. When I was in high school my best teacher, indeed, probably the best one in the school was this petite, stunningly beautiful young black woman. She called herself OLM, for old lady Martin. Fast as a cobra strike she used to grab her high heeled shoe and throw it at the football players who dared disrupt her class, and she almost always nailed them. It happened only the first week or two of school, before they learned who was absolutely the dominant ruler in the room. Even the less intelligent ones learned fast, but she didn’t have many of those, it was an advanced class.

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          • michellc says:
            October 10, 2016 at 9:24 am

            The idea of discipline these days is for them to sit out in the hall or be sent to the office where they get told to not do that again and possibly a 3 day vacation from school.

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            • Col.(R) Ken says:
              October 10, 2016 at 10:16 am

              If you want to succeed in life, your profession you must have self discipline……..something I lacked earlier, developed later on…….

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              • michellc says:
                October 10, 2016 at 10:30 am

                You have to be taught though to ever have any self discipline. Kids today get mixed messages, they’re told when they do bad it’s okay because they’re just kids(kid seems to apply to at least 30 these days as well) yet they’re also told they are little adults and should be treated that way.

                You can’t have self discipline if you’ve been told all of your life there is nothing wrong with your actions.

                I worried while I was raising my kids and seeing how others were raising theirs and we now see the outcome of that.
                I really worry now that those kids are raising kids.

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              • Menagerie says:
                October 10, 2016 at 1:31 pm

                Me too Colonel.

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          • czarowniczy says:
            October 10, 2016 at 11:07 am

            I went to a military high school in Germany, talk about discipline. Schools aren’t supposed to teach morality or personal responsibility, parents sre but too many parents just slough off the responsibility. It’s a wonder any kids graduates high schhol and no wonder our educational ranking internationally is as low as it is. Public schools are now largely babysitting services.

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            • lovely says:
              October 10, 2016 at 11:12 am

              Pretty much prison waiting rooms at this point.

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            • WeeWeed says:
              October 10, 2016 at 11:16 am

              Military schools are great. I used to threaten my kid with New Mexico military academy unless the grades stayed good and the rules stayed followed.

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              • lovely says:
                October 10, 2016 at 11:21 am

                My cousin threatened her son with coming to live with me if he didn’t shape up 😄. That was back in the days when I didn’t even have a TV. He shaped up 🙂

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                • michellc says:
                  October 10, 2016 at 12:35 pm

                  I’ve had nephews, nieces, cousins’ kids, friends’ kids sent to me. They never seem to like learning that there isn’t a mall near and they wouldn’t be needing their designer clothing unless they wanted them covered in poop, blood and mud. Most straightened up when they went back home.

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              • czarowniczy says:
                October 10, 2016 at 11:23 am

                This was a real military school, run by the DoD. Principal was lieutenant colonel, and if you screwed up you not only got fill serving of misery but your dad’s CO got a call from the school principal. You got it from both ends. Interesting pointvwas that two of mybteachers were former members of the Wehrmacht.

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            • michellc says:
              October 10, 2016 at 12:28 pm

              In my day though schools had no problem with taking a board to your rear and a ruler to your knuckles and then when we got home we got another spanking.

              Myself, was always more worried about what my parents would say. Funny, back then we cared more about disappointing our parents than we really did about the spanking, although we dreaded that as well. lol

              Today their is no discipline in school and no discipline at home and heaven forbid any teacher actually raise her voice or give junior a bad grade because mommy will be there in a heartbeat blaming the teacher.

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    • ImpeachEmAll says:
      October 10, 2016 at 7:40 am

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:
      October 10, 2016 at 7:42 am

      Speaking of Lunch, did you guys tried ZM’s fried egg/bacon breakfast…….

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  3. ImpeachEmAll says:
    October 10, 2016 at 12:04 am

    Karma…

    NBC suspends ‘Today’ show’s Billy Bush for role on Trump tape

    http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/national/nbc-mum-on-how-billy-bush-will-resurface-on-the-air_

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  4. ImpeachEmAll says:
    October 10, 2016 at 12:13 am

    Oh, look, a picture
    of Hillary leaving
    the debate building.

    Apologies to Stella.
    Just could not resist.

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  5. MaryfromMarin says:
    October 10, 2016 at 2:13 am

    hahahahahahaha !!!!

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  6. nyetneetot says:
    October 10, 2016 at 7:42 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| ( and Czarina 🙂 🍸 )
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! 🙂 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! 🙂 🍸 (2008 Château Haut Brion)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Cinnamon rolls for coffee!

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  7. ImpeachEmAll says:
    October 10, 2016 at 7:49 am

    Elderly computer knowledge base…

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  8. Col.(R) Ken says:
    October 10, 2016 at 8:12 am

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Macs_Wax/status/785441887951785984/photo/1
    Got this picture over at the neighbors, “The Rapist has a post debate meltdown” I must have missed this!!!!!

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  9. lovely says:
    October 10, 2016 at 9:33 am

    I knew those rat bastages looked nervous as hell last night. They were faced with the possibility of Bill Clinton coming face to face with a woman he raped, 2 women he sexually assaulted and a woman that Hillary mocked and belittled, because the woman was raped by a monster when she was a 12 year old little girl.

    Imagine the backlash if the commission removed these women while cameras were rolling. No wonder all the Trump children looked angry when they first came in and were seated.

    Trump wanted to put Bill Clinton’s accusers in his family box. Debate officials said no.

    ST. LOUIS — Donald Trump’s campaign sought to intimidate Hillary Clinton and embarrass her husband by seating women who have accused former president Bill Clinton of sexual abuse in the Trump family’s box at the presidential debate here Sunday night, according to four people involved in the discussions.

    The campaign’s plan, which was closely held and unknown to several of Trump’s top aides, was thwarted just minutes before it could be executed when officials with the Commission on Presidential Debates intervened. The commission officials warned that, if the Trump campaign tried to seat the accusers in the elevated family box, security officers would remove the women, according to the people involved, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the discussions were confidential.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/10/trumps-debate-plan-to-seat-bill-clintons-accusers-in-family-box-was-thwarted/

    Remember this, for all of Hillary’s power, all her dark ops, all her money and influence, all her material to blackmail people, she is a walking mess of a human being she is always terrified of the light being shown on her nefarious deeds. Imagine the stress of being so malicious that she knew the possibility of her personal server being found out, the possibility of her deleting 33 thousand emails being found out was a safer firestorm than the truth being known.

    Hillary wakes up with one foot in hell.

    I’m still not convinced that Hillary’s physical body is not going to be consumed by the evil which dwells within her and is eating her alive from the inside out before election day. I thought she might stroke out last night.

    Trump has won.

    He knows Hillary’s weakness.

    Next debate Trump needs to have Dick Morris, Pat Smith, Oz, and a few others in choice seats.

    Pray for Trump’s safety he just raised the threat on his life exponentially last night.

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  10. michellc says:
    October 10, 2016 at 9:35 am

    AAAHHH pore old Schieffer got his feathers ruffled. Marching in women who have had some kind of relationship with Bill Clinton(is that what he calls rape…a relationship).

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/10/09/schieffer-debate-disgraceful/

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:
      October 10, 2016 at 9:55 am

      This guy has outlived his usefulness, does understand who, what the Demorats party has become, Clinton crime family and the list goes on on on…..

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      • michellc says:
        October 10, 2016 at 10:02 am

        I think he’s been right there along for the ride and what has him riled is someone has came along who fights you the same way you fight him. Did he have the same disgust when the man sitting in the highest office in the land was disgracing that office? I seriously doubt it.

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      October 10, 2016 at 10:14 am

      A very, very, short term “relationship”.

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    • lovely says:
      October 10, 2016 at 10:22 am

      They are sick vile people. Where are all the screaming femi-nazis calling for Schiffer’s head? Yeah, yeah, they agree with him. It’s not about women or rape or abuse it is about who does the raping and abusing and in their mind if it’s Bill Clinton doing the deed no matter what the deed is, it is a “relationship”.

      Sick vile people.

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      • michellc says:
        October 10, 2016 at 10:33 am

        They disgust me, especially the women who are saying this was a long time ago. These women live with it all of their lives, it never really goes away.

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        • lovely says:
          October 10, 2016 at 10:40 am

          A caldron full of rape apologists calling themselves woman rights activists. The very same people who want to import and embolden Sharia promoting barbarians into our homes.

          They can all go to hell.

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      • czarowniczy says:
        October 10, 2016 at 12:26 pm

        I believe that, as long as they weren’t personslly ‘objectified’, the feminazis feign sipport for Billary’s victims but really don’t care. The outrage is just anothervtool in their kit used to further their agenda, broken people along the way are acceptable collateral damage.

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  13. nyetneetot says:
    October 10, 2016 at 10:26 am

    I’m actually watching the beginning now and am already arguing with the people from the University. “This country was founded on the ideal that …..blah blah blah”
    Horsepucky! It was founded by really angry people who were sick and tired of someone 3500 miles away taking everything they worked hard for. Hopefully the descendants of those angry people will do the hard things to gain back our freedom from the crooks currently in charge.

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:
      October 10, 2016 at 10:45 am

      Nye, agree with your statement, also review the highlights of the French Indian War. In short, the colonies wanted protection, the Crown said: only if you pay for it….. the Officers of the British Army, and American Army will take the lead and appear thoughout the Revolution. I’m paraphrasing from memory: when a subordinate asked Washington if he knew Gen.Cage of the British Army, Washington smiled and said “I know him well”. Read the encounter on the Banks of the Monongahela, Braddock’s March, and Battle 1753 (?) .

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    • nyetneetot says:
      October 10, 2016 at 10:47 am

      I made it to the first question being read. There is no way I’m going to sit through 90 minutes of poorly read snide remarks and questions.

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      • Wooly Phlox says:
        October 10, 2016 at 5:55 pm

        I know I’m breaking new ground here with this idea, but — hear me out! — I think that presidential debates should be removed from the hands of the MSM entirely.

        There. I said it. I’m the first to do so, I’m sure. (heh.)

        Also, the task of counting the votes really should be taken away from the SEIU and AFSCME and their loyal members.

        Also, reportage of election results should be a few days of black smoke, and white smoke when the counting is finished, instead of many weeks of MSM blathering and lawyering and MSM propaganda leading to even more lawyering. God inspired — like pneuma inspired — Shakespeare on THAT particular subject. “First…”

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      • Wooly Phlox says:
        October 10, 2016 at 6:17 pm

        I couldn’t watch more than ten minutes of the very first GOP debate, with, what? 15 candidates on stage?

        It was a TV-People game show.

        You might as well just pick the moderators from among game show hosts. Simon Cowell, Alex Trebek, Pat Sajak

        Chuck Barris would be perfect, provided he could use his giant gong.

        So would Richard Dawson, provided he could grope the folks in the “family box”.

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  14. lovely says:
    October 10, 2016 at 10:55 am

    This is what supposedly happened.

    Ken Bone (the man in red) asked Bill Clinton why he raped women after the debate. Bill obviously is angry and the guy in the dark suit is trying to keep Clinton from approaching Bone.

    There is a story here.

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  15. auscitizenmom says:
    October 10, 2016 at 11:18 am

    A report of Trump’s problems and Bill Clinton’s past by Sharyl Attkisson.

    “Trump’s Troubles & A Cheat Sheet on Allegations against Bill Clinton”
    “Here’s a blast-from-the-past cheat sheet of some of the most-discussed allegations by Bill Clinton’s accusers, which Clinton has denied:”

    https://sharylattkisson.com/trumps-troubles-a-cheat-sheet-on-allegations-against-bill-clinton/

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  16. ImpeachEmAll says:
    October 10, 2016 at 12:42 pm

    Something to remember
    when voting in November.
    Check your ballet for RINOs.

    https://twitter.com/Bidenshairplugz/status/784966134151909377

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    • lovely says:
      October 10, 2016 at 1:22 pm

      They can all go to hell in Hillary’s hand basket.

      They can’t vote for Trump, but they can put the, open doors to Sharia Law 7th century savages, open borders, rape enabling and defending Hillary Clinton, in the most powerful position in the world.

      They are, each and everyone hypocrites of the worst order.

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    • sandandsea2015 says:
      October 10, 2016 at 1:42 pm

      I contacted my congressman today and let him know how I’m feeling about the GOP leadership these days. We should light their phones up and let them know they will be in the unemployment line when they come up for reelection.

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    • michellc says:
      October 10, 2016 at 2:24 pm

      I just read an article about GOP conference call with Ryan saying he wouldn’t defend Trump any longer(when exactly has he done that?) and that he wouldn’t campaign with him(Trump doesn’t need Ryan!)
      On down in the article it says some are worried about backlash from Trump supporters, they should be. I know and have talked to people who haven’t voted in decades, who voted in the primaries and will be voting in the general. They might have won these people over, but now these people are all saying they won’t vote for them, they’ll cast a vote for Trump and either leave the rest of the ballot blank or vote for the Independent or those who live in write in states say they’ll write others in.

      http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/ryan-to-house-lawmakers-i-wont-defend-trump-229541

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    • texan59 says:
      October 10, 2016 at 11:07 pm

      Dead men (and women) walking, if Teh Donald can pull this off.

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  17. ImpeachEmAll says:
    October 10, 2016 at 12:55 pm

    Nigel on Trump…

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    • John Denney says:
      October 10, 2016 at 2:51 pm

      Despite having few natural resources and no empire, the Swiss prosper.

      But they do have is:
      1) Can-do attitude
      2) Diligence
      3) Continuous learning
      4) Trustworthiness

      All founded on the Lord’s command to love one another. They do not steal other’s wealth, they create wealth, turning nearly worthless seed pods into milk chocolate, or a few bits of crystal and metal into a Swiss watch. Would you rather put your money into a Swiss bank or a Nigerian bank?

      To defend their prosperity, they have the protection of the mountains, and a well armed citizenry.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:
      October 10, 2016 at 6:35 pm

      Amazing image. It should be on a T-shirt.

      I’d sell millions. The artist would get a larger cut, whoever that may be.

      I’m doing the math in my head and wondering why I’m restaurant-industry beyo*ch.

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  20. michellc says:
    October 10, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    Mean old Trump called her “she” and “her.” I can think of a lot of things he could have called her, oops I called Hillary her, I must be a sexist. lol

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/wapos-chris-cillizza-complains-that-trump-kept-calling-clinton-she-and-her/

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  21. czarowniczy says:
    October 10, 2016 at 5:57 pm

    I was at my usual ‘favorite’ big-box store, behind a lady on one of those electric scooters the store has. She eaily weighed in between 350 and 375 pounds and had the usual assortment of dietary crap that made one think her condition may not be an endocrine one. I was smacking myself for being so judgemental right up until she removed one of those packaged, glazed cinnamon buns from the package, while still in line, and swallowed the thing in three bites. Still trying not to be judgemental…still trying…still trying…

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    • Wooly Phlox says:
      October 10, 2016 at 7:03 pm

      Man, oh man.

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    • michellc says:
      October 10, 2016 at 7:34 pm

      There’s a reason that I wait until I absolutely have to go to WalMart before I go. The drawback to a rural life away from any large town is unless you want to make a road trip WalMart is the only place to buy some things that are a must have.
      I never shop in WalMart without gagging at least once due to people on carts they don’t fit on shoveling bags of food in their mouths.

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      • czarowniczy says:
        October 10, 2016 at 8:23 pm

        We still gave a local store that’s doing quite well, it has a lot of local fresh stuff vice Big Box’s ‘relative’ fresh stuff. We have two butcher shops that provide far, far better meats than any of the major supers, a wider variety of suasages and other specialy meats locally made by accountable makers with actual tastebuds. They also buy local dhrimp instead of the pesticide/sewerage/antibiotic sotted Asian/South American farmed seafood.
        I was raised to believe that it wasn’t ‘my’ food until I’d paid for it but now I see people eating everything in sight as they walk the aisles or stand in checkout. I don’t know, times change and we don’t, I guess.

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        • nyetneetot says:
          October 10, 2016 at 8:37 pm

          “I was raised to believe that it wasn’t ‘my’ food until I’d paid for it but now I see people eating everything in sight as they walk the aisles or stand in checkout.”

          I don’t know if you see this in your areas of the country, but up here not only do they do that, the next person in line follows you to the register and stands about a foot away while you get your stuff rung up and pay for it.

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          • czarowniczy says:
            October 10, 2016 at 10:19 pm

            I stop short of enterin tne narrow checkout lane and walk to the front of my cart, pulling it in as I unload and having it between me and the next in line. Yeah, ‘personal space’ is a lost cause here too.

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        • michellc says:
          October 10, 2016 at 9:17 pm

          I rarely buy grocery items at WalMart, but there’s other household things I have no choice about.
          Problem is these folks drive all over the store stuffing their faces. It’s almost like their first stops are the deli and junk food aisles just to have the energy to drive around and shop. lol

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          • czarowniczy says:
            October 10, 2016 at 10:22 pm

            I’d mentioned this issue to a manager a few years back after seeing empty bottles, cans and food wrappers stuffed into shelves. He just shrugged and said they add the costs into the shelf prices. Too many problems with stopping someone in the store, they generally only get testy if someone shoplifts and leaves the store.

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            • michellc says:
              October 10, 2016 at 10:51 pm

              I’ve known the lady who is the manager here for about 5 years or so and have asked her before if they bring their empty packages to pay for what they’ve ate. She said that some do and others don’t but that Bentonville has told them unless they’re putting them in their bags or clothes or leaving with them to leave them alone because they can’t technically charge them with shoplifting.
              In my book it’s stealing just the same as if they were putting it in their purse or down their pants or up their shirt.
              I’m sure the rest of us get to pay for it twice, once when what they do pay for is paid with their EBT card and again for the stuff they eat and don’t pay for.

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              • czarowniczy says:
                October 10, 2016 at 11:37 pm

                Louisiana law: RS 14:67.10 Theft of goods: A. (6): Damages or consumes goods or property so as to render it unmerchantable.
                I’m betting your state has a law covering this too. Thing is, if you apprehend someone eating goods it can cause a scene that upsets other shoppers. It’s hard to prove in a court that someone eating food before purchase wasn’t going to pay for it. In all, it can be a PR nightmare so, unlike theft where someone leaves the store with food in tow, it’s all just easier to add the losses to overhead.
                I used to watch iur detail supermarket take good fruit and vegetables, dump them into a dumpster and pour bleach over them. They were good but unsold and new stuff was coming in so out it went. The bleach was to prevent dumpster divers from getting it. It was no loss to the store, it all went into the overhead we pay for.

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                • michellc says:
                  October 10, 2016 at 11:50 pm

                  The thing is WalMart has cameras everywhere and according to her they catch them throwing the empty packages into the trash or shopping baskets people have left sitting around or in the shelves. I guess though as WalMart these days makes most of their money from those on welfare and foodstamps that is who they cater to.

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                  • czarowniczy says:
                    October 11, 2016 at 12:22 am

                    It’s more trouble andcexpense to cat h the small-timers than it’s worth. Also, if I were working a store detail and were to get injured as the guy eating the potato chips and stuffing the empty bag in a shelf were to take umbrage at my busting him…
                    Suddenly that store gets nailed with workers comp and whatever fees the injury would bring to the cop on detail. It’s all a matter of economies and it’s far easier to have the cost of the shoplifting spread among customers.

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                  • michellc says:
                    October 11, 2016 at 12:47 am

                    Shoot before long they’ll be suing WalMart for making them fat by allowing them to eat merchandise for free. lol
                    I just get a little bent out of shape that I have to pay for thieves.

                    We have a grocery store in the other small town near me where I do most of my shopping and they’re smart, they don’t provide the motorized carts and they have signs everywhere telling you not to open packages before paying for them. I’ve seen their manager tell people they need to pay for it and point at the signs.

                    Now they might get away with it because they are the only grocery store in town, but for me it makes a much more pleasant shopping experience.

                    The grocery store in the town with WalMart doesn’t have those signs and they do have two motorized carts but I rarely see people eating while shopping. It’s only at WalMart where it seems to be the norm.

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                • stella says:
                  October 11, 2016 at 7:34 am

                  That’s why they have charities like Forgotten Harvest.

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              • stella says:
                October 11, 2016 at 7:30 am

                I take a water sometimes, and pay for it when I go through the line, but only when I have acid reflux.

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  22. Wooly Phlox says:
    October 10, 2016 at 7:23 pm

    It’s neat that Stella’s Place became a last refuge.

    From the Last Refuge.

    It amazes me, sometimes.

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  23. Wooly Phlox says:
    October 10, 2016 at 7:35 pm

    Pray for me at work, please.

    Our kitchen manager quit last week, and he was a powerhouse. And burned hisself out in one season, working way too many hours (and abandoning God, and being seduced, and Drama), like I said he would, as I predicted.

    I knew because I’ve been here 9 years. They come and go. I prayed with this guy outside at 6 in the morning, before work, in Christ’s name. More than twice. I’d never done that before with anyone outside family or in a church.

    I’ve been here longer than anyone except the fine lady who sold this place to my boss 12 years ago. In the kitchen? Nobody’s been here more than 1 year. And they’re looking to me for help, even the College-educted Chef.

    How do we fix this?, he said. To the dishwasher….

    …who knows more about this place than anyone else.

    That should cause me pride, but it humbles me, greatly.

    Pray that I can think that way. How to save a business.

    Or pray that I can save souls. Because I love them all, and they see it.

    or pray for both.

    Love youse.

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      October 10, 2016 at 7:55 pm

      I will be happy to pray for you, for both. 🙂

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    • Wooly Phlox says:
      October 10, 2016 at 8:00 pm

      Two weeks ago I was complaining that said manager was only scheduling me for three or four days a week.

      Now I’m on every day.

      Good for the wallet, but I need prayer for what they’re all asking of me.

      I know, but I don’t know. I’m really, really good at micro-solutions.

      Macro, I told our new manager when he asked, my brain doesn’t think that way.

      And yet it does. When I’m not in the kitchen, I’m sitting and thinking. About the kitchen.

      Everyone knows it. I just don’t know how to collate my thoughts and apply them to something as big as four restaurants and an incredible catering business.

      I couldn’t answer his question, though.

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      • auscitizenmom says:
        October 10, 2016 at 8:08 pm

        This may sound silly, but I wonder about contacting one of those reality shows that helps fix up restaurants. I guess they are still on the air.

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        • Wooly Phlox says:
          October 10, 2016 at 8:30 pm

          What are these “shows” of which you speak?

          Just kidding, I know.

          Me and a former Chef used to hang out and watch the competitive ones, and, having both worked in kitchens all our lives, had to stop, because it was all heavily-edited-for-maximum-drama garbage. “Show, add dramatic music, side of SFX sells it!”

          If only honesty was a virtue any more.

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      • nyetneetot says:
        October 10, 2016 at 8:32 pm

        Is this where you tell us you have a very VIP client, and need to know how to change the address on about 30K of E-Mail?

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    • czarowniczy says:
      October 10, 2016 at 10:25 pm

      Yeah, I have a son who’s the resturant manager from hell. Every few years he burns out with whatever chain and starts anew with another as if the change recharges him.

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  24. lovely says:
    October 10, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    🙂

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  26. Wooly Phlox says:
    October 10, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    I listened to, and bought the album. It’s a masterpiece.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:
      October 10, 2016 at 10:58 pm

      the album:

      Well worth the sub-20 bucks.

      The album art itself is worth it.

      My CD arrived from Amazon™ today. I wish I had the vinyl.

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  27. texan59 says:
    October 10, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    Watch this all the way through. 30 seconds. Trust me on this one.

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  28. texan59 says:
    October 10, 2016 at 11:41 pm

    After this election is over and in the rearview mirror, I for one, hope to see some wikileaks emails come out from the guys on “our side”. I want to see these bat-snot crazy fools start to sweat like Teddy Kennedy walkin’ into the Catholic church. I want to see them contort themselves into pretzels when confronted at their first town hall meeting back at home, whether the Donald wins or not, but especially if he does. They will be Dead Men Walking and not know where the next BOO is coming from. At this point I don’t really care if the “Republican Party” burns to the ground. They have proven to all of the world to see what cowards they have. They have no loyalty to their party, to a man, while crude and crass, took out every one of his competitors, fair and square, most likely with a headwind all the way through the primaries. They have loyalty only to themselves and the half-baked “club” they belong to – the Bipartisan-Fusion Party. The one where they get all the winnings, and none of the losses on every deal they come upon. They already gutted the legislation that forbade them from insider trading. Never hear much about that one anymore do you. I want to see them whimper like a baby. They deserve what they’re about to get.

    Here are some sage words from a True Patriot.

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    • lovely says:
      October 10, 2016 at 11:47 pm

      That pig Arnold Schwarzenegger just tweeted some nonsense about how for the first time since he’s become an American he won’t be voting for the republican candidate. I did not read his “reasoning” as whatever it is, it is a lie.

      Schwarzenegger the man who bedded his maid and then allowed his son to be raised as a servant has the audacity to say what about morals?

      Not to mention that Schwarzenegger is part of the Kennedy cabal.

      Spit.

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      • texan59 says:
        October 10, 2016 at 11:53 pm

        Guess it’s a good thing no one found out about him diddlin’ the maid and havin’ a kid whilst seemingly quite married, and IIRC, it happened before he became Duh Guvuhnatuh! Maybe he can go to the polls and vote with Glenn Beck. 😈

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      • michellc says:
        October 11, 2016 at 12:07 am

        He said something about it being due to the released tape.
        I couldn’t help but laugh when I heard about it coming from a man who there are pictures floating around of him grabbing what Trump talked about grabbing and the man whose maid’s child and his wife’s child were born days apart.

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    • michellc says:
      October 11, 2016 at 12:02 am

      I want the Republican party to burn to the ground, I hope for it to burn to the ground. I can’t help myself, those are my feelings.

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    • stella says:
      October 11, 2016 at 7:36 am

      “Bipartisan-Fusion Party”. Good one, Tex.

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  30. ImpeachEmAll says:
    October 11, 2016 at 12:24 am

    Seems some house cleaning is in order…

    https://twitter.com/CoreyStewartVA/status/785682398512021504

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