Three days ago, Sundance over at The Conservative Treehouse posted this:
Now whether or not you agree with Sundance’s take on the situation, the facts ARE that the son of Mark Levin’s fiance’ is a staffer for Ted Cruz, and Mark didn’t see fit to mention the potential conflict of interest until he was forced to do so.
The same day that Sundance put up his post, Breitbart also ran this:
I honestly don’t know where Sundance got the information contained in his post, but it is a good guess that he either heard Levin talk about it on his show, somebody who heard it told him, and/or he read the piece over at Breitbart, or some other similar site.
What I am finding very interesting is why Mark Levin is personally going after Sundance. Take a look at this. It’s a post made yesterday on Mark Levin’s Facebook page:
Since the bare facts are correct – Mark Levin’s fiance’s son is a staffer for Ted Cruz, and Mark didn’t disclose it until it was leaked to the press – why is he bothering to go after a relatively small-time blogger? I don’t mean to denigrate Sundance and CTH, but let’s face it – he’s not Matt Drudge or Breitbart.
It seems to me that a big-time conservative public celebrity going after a relatively unknown blogger comes across as small, and it will only draw negative attention to himself, rather than to the one he is “calling out”. Frankly, it looks like bullying.
Based on the bare facts, it doesn’t make sense to me. I mean, if Sundance told lies about Levin, or misrepresented the facts, or threatened Levin in any way, or even mentioned the name of Mark Levin’s fiance or her son, he might have a good reason to be outraged.
The outrage seems out of proportion to the facts.
Sundance didn’t lie about what happened – he just put his own spin on the facts as they exist. He didn’t threaten anybody, and he didn’t “out” any innocent individuals.
Help me out here. I’ve listened to Mark Levin when his show is on and I’m in the car, and even bought one of his books, but I’m not a regular listener to his radio show. Does he do this kind of thing on a regular basis? I understand why he might call out a public figure, or a politician, or even a reporter or another radio personality – but a blogger?
In full disclosure, for those who don’t already know it, I have worked at CTH for a long time as an administrator and sometime writer. I’m just a blogger too. By the way, I haven’t asked Sundance how he happened to write the post that caused this uproar, or where he got the information.
So, what do you think?
P.S.: Doesn’t Mark Levin refer to himself as “The Great One”, or is that only what Hannity called him?
Stella's Place 
I think if we need to circle the wagons I’m in. You know how I feel about that kind of thing.
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I really don’t understand it. His reaction seems so overdone. Have you seen anything on twitter? I don’t think there are any wagons to circle, at least not yet. I just felt like writing this to document it, and see what people think.
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RE: the Twitter, haven’t seen anything because I don’t follow Levin, LOL. Don’t follow a lot of the bigs because I have no trust in them. I trust in “small” internet and have since I found y’all way back when.
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My thoughts exactly, Stella! His reaction was boorish and infantile at the same time.
I remember when I was on the local Little League board. During games we would run a fundraiser called 50/50. We sold raffle tickets with 50% of the proceeds going to the eventual winner and 50% going to the League.
My wife won one time. I announced to everyone there that we would be donating our winnings to the League. Not because we had done anything wrong rather, I didn’t feel comfortable knowing that someone there could have thought it was rigged.
The appearance of impropriety can be just as caustic actual impropriety.
Given his position, you’d think Levin would know that.
PS- Thanks for the link to your blog. I had no idea!!
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You are welcome. I don’t usually like to “blog whore”. This issue really ticks me off. He’s a bully.
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I hope Levin realizes that he just lost a lot of followers with his egomaniac response. What an absolute jackass! Does he not realize that a conservative, acting like a crazy democrat, is no more appealing than a democrat acting this way. He has exposed his true self here, which is not something you can redeem with an apology.
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Welcome, Rick. This took place more than two years ago, while Levin was supporting Ted Cruz, although what he did was immature and bullying, in my opinion.
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My guess is that Levin has some serious skeletons in his closet. After all, the CTH is an investigative crowd sourcing site looking for the truth. Levin is afraid that if the CTH turns it sights on him they may discover those skeletons. The hit on Sundance is an attempt to either warn Sundance/CTH off or to try to discredit Sundance/CTH with what is left of his audience.
I’ve seen it before with some less than ethical attorneys and have been the victim of a number of such attacks. Sundance is handling it the right way, ignore the loser, while looking for those skeletons. If Levin acts out again, bring out those skeletons.
Glad I found you here.
Take Care
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Good to see you oldiaguy 🙂
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It was a definite warning. One that came from I’m a big powerful attorney/radio host with connections and you’re just a little nobody, don’t cross me again. I do not like those tactics, I believe in a fair fight and I also believe the bigger bully you are the harder you will fall.
I also do not like belittling anyone. Mark Levin or even Donald Trump for that matter are not above a construction worker, farmer or even a grocery store stock boy, they all put their pants on one leg at a time.
It speaks volumes about the kind of man Levin is and it’s not the man he has portrayed himself to be.
Good to see you oldiaguy.
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Glad to see you here, oldiadguy! I also think Levin’s post is a preemptive strike. If SD finds any skeletons that are pertinent (not personal, unless they pertain to public matters), he will air them.
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Wouldn’t most people get angry if they were caught with their pants down? That’s what Levin is manifesting: anger for being caught. And he’s making it worse for himself. I, for one, felt sorry for the Mark Sundance, the grocery store manager, who probably has no idea what Levin is ranting about.
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Welcome, Bert Darrell. I think “Mark Sundance” knows very well “what” Levin is ranting about, but “why” he is doing it is the question. Yes, none of us like to get caught, but for a man of his caliber to lash out as he did is difficult to understand “because” it makes it worse. Unless he thinks that, by shooting the messenger, he will lessen the effect of any further exposure.
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Levin is an elitist, a very clever one. Why bring up that Sundance was a grocery store manager. Is there something wrong with that? I know a lot of “Grocery Store Managers,” who are very informed and intelligent, more so than the likes of Mark Levin. Once a fan, now he’s been exposed to be just another elitist.
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indeed. my only difference with your analysis is in levin being clever. the laughable tell of his mentioning grocery store manager lets anyone watching know precisely the kind of corrupt social snob mark levin is. it screams i am insecure. einstein was a patent office assistant, abdul latif jandali was born out of wedlock in syria, was later adopted by a high school dropout, later himself dropped out of college freshman year after doing marijuana and lsd, and while living in a toolshed founded apple computer with wozniak and wayne.
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I also notice that someone we know “liked” Levin’s FB post, and made a derogatory comment herself.
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Didn’t see that, will go look. I think Levin is just yapping at this point, he’s shot his credibility all to hell, so my gut says diversionary tactic.
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SD must be over the target.
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As always.
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I miss you Tilda…really do.
Howie
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I miss me too. And you are so sweet. 🙂
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Me too, nice to see you again and hope all is well 🙂
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She’s addicted to Twitter!
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Love ya Stella.
Howie
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Thank you, Howie!
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Hey! Howie doing?!?!
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I actually got off my Duff and said something over at Levins blog.
I had people who I know had never in their life read anything over at the Conservative Treehouse chastise me as foolish and misguided
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I saw it.
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BAHAAHAHAAHHA!
“…a disparaging remark against grocery store managers”
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LOL!
So Mark Levin thinks it’s not okay to work at a grocery store? Belittling people because of where they work, way to go Levin.
I also see there’s an earlier post by Levin, but I haven’t made it out of all the comments yet.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/mark-levin/another-vile-website/10153205662025946
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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!
The nuts don’t fall far from the “treehouse.”
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A blog or his FB page?
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It’s on FB.
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I don’t know who the someone is but there were a lot of derogatory comments.
Society is collapsing, humans are becoming domesticated animals dependent on others to tell them how to think and take care of them and often sound like a pig squealing or a donkey braying.
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This isn’t new. If you read the first hand accounts of the French revolution (and the other revolutions that happened across the Western world at the same time) you’ll find that things will get much worse.
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So, Sunshine – you sayin’ the guillotines are up next??? 😯
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I was surprised to learn body piercing and tattoos were popular at the time as well. FEMA camps for a couple of years, then guillotines? Could be. It matches every socialist/communist take over since then.
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I picture more of an App that tells you that you have been taken out and you go to a government approved disposal site. There was a movie with this theme but I can’t recall the name of it.
The friction of the guillotine would add to the biggest enemy of earth Global Warming plus it is so darn messy.
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None of the fake science stuff matters to those people. Socialism is not about logic and reason, it’s about feelings. They need to feel they belong. They will happily chop the heads off anyone that tells them they are not doing well at work, they’re too fat, ugly, lazy, stupid, etc. It’s all happened before.
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I think you’re thinking of Logan’s Run, Lovely (or Soylent Green.) Yeah, B, I’ve read about the piercings. Odd places 🙄 with extremely odd jewelrey…..
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It was the first real women’s lib movement. Free love and everything. Mothers turned over their own sons to be guillotined, and wives their husbands.
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And the town square will be full of merriment and street vendors.
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GO HAWKS!
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We once were civilized in this country.
But if they bring back the guillotine I’m going to start getting all these true animals around here drunk or something so they can buy me time to reload.
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You are correct, they (the globalist) don’t have a clue what they are actually doing. They have their secured compounds and private security forces and feel very secure, but how well did that work for King Louis XVI. King Louie had a palace and a small private army. Both were overrun and King Louis lost his head.
As I have stated over at the CTH, since my retirement, I’ve been monitoring some of the rightwing fringe sites. They are keeping tack of the players who are orchestrating this disaster. What is coming will not be pretty. Neither for us or them.
Take Care
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She made several “comments”… I’ve been out in the weeds the past few weeks (family sickness) but surfaced just long enough to see this thing come to light last week. Now this!?! Levin really does have his panties in a bunch; usually means not so good things are trying to be obfuscated.
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My thoughts exactly. Shoot the messenger so that eventual “other” things won’t be believed – maybe.
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I believe all this bemoaning from the “conservative” pundits is an effort to control the definition of “conservative”. Rush sorta got wind of the idea last week when he started to realize all the Tea Party types aren’t gone, they’re apart of this Trump coalition. The pundits still do not get that the Tea Party types do not care as much about Trump’s bonafides as much as they care about The Donald as the best weapon of choice to take down as much of the establishment as possible. The GOPe/Dems are scared as all get out and now it’s the guardians of conservativtism That are starting to get scared, because it looks like their livelihood is at deaths door as well.
Sunlight does do incredible things.
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The lady’s initials wouldn’t be DP would they? Several comments about what CTH has become from someone with those initials.
I saw them and wished I could figure out her name at CTH.
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No, the initials are BF, and they don’t relate to the name at CTH.
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I wonder who this DP woman is? She talks like she has been there for awhile.
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I found the BF and if her twitter name and blog is the same as she used on CTH, I don’t remember her there. I don’t have the best memory though.
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Ziigii, I hope that your family member is recovered from the illness, and that we will see you more often again!
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Thanks Stella… I’m currently the only one in need of recovery right now. The kids weathered most of it through the holidays. It’s now my turn to kick it out the door for good. Pneumonia sucks and this is my second bout in 2 years.
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I’m happy to hear you are on the mend. One of our CTH admin group is also recovering from pneumonia, and it is a nasty thing to overcome, and takes a bit of time.
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:-D. ❤
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You, too, Puddy!
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That crap’ll kill yas, Zig – I hope to never have it again. Get the shots.
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I missed this Stell. I think I have the answer. It is the “Conservative Misfits” thing he is afraid of. He thinks we are the real Misfits is all I can come up with. 🙂 Unless Bernie called him and warned him. 🙂
No Marky is not our drummer Mark. This is not us. We are not a rock band. We are a band of simple conservative Misfits. But we are a little socially distorted. Maybe a few of us anyway.
We just have storys of our lives. We live the life we love, and love the life we live. And we love our CTH Treeps.
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Oh man I love this song.
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His quote leaves me stone cold. I have never been a worshipper of him, for that is what many of his biggest fans have seemed to me, but that was repulsive and does nothing for his credibility to normal people.
You can’t be in possession of your faculties, and have a sense of decency and read that without outrage and seeing him as an over important bully. It’s as if he can’t believe anyone questioned him. I think he is a fan. Of himself, as he thinks he is.
I support and respect Sundance. I don’t always agree with him, of course. I don’t always agree with anyone. But Im not a groupie, and I don’t act irrationally when people have different opinions. He has some supporters who appear to confuse him with a diety. You know what that is about? People who have such a fragile ego that they self identify with everything their idol does, and they can never say that he made a mistake or their own fragile self is threatened. It is pitiful.
And there are vengeful people who just want to cause trouble always.
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Totally explains his incessant stand re Cruz eligibility for President. last time I heard him yap about it he wasn’t even considering the other person’s viewpoint or explaining his rational.
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I’m all alone in my immediate family who thinks Cruz is probably eligible, but I don’t tell my kids or husband they are idiots or are dead wrong because they have the right to read it for themselves and form their own opinion.
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What is interesting is the new all encompassing definition of NBC. When I was in high school back in the late 60’s we had a thing called a government/civics class (something they don’t teach much anymore). Mr. Wilson, my favorite history teacher also taught the GC class. While covering the Constitution, we were taught that a NBC was a child born to American citizen parents on American soil. I don’t recall if the definition was in the textbook we were using at the time or was something Mr. Wilson brought out.
My point is that the definition of a NBC being two American citizen parents born of US soil is nothing new. The only thing new is that lawyers are now revising the meaning into something the Founders apparently did not intend, just because there isn’t a specific definition explained within the Constitution. “The Lawyers” are also the ones who claim the Constitution is a living document that only lawyers and jurist can decipher and interpret, found a new rights within the Constitution to kill your unborn child and brought us the question of what “is” means.
We, the American citizenry should be the arbitrators of what the Constitution means, specifically the definition of NBC, not the lawyers and jurist who have brought this nation so much woe. What did Shakespeare say in Henry VI? He might have been onto something.
Take Care
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“We, the American citizenry should be the arbitrators of what the Constitution means, specifically the definition of NBC, not the lawyers and jurist who have brought this nation so much woe. What did Shakespeare say in Henry VI? “
Socialism strikes again. Contrary to popular contemporary belief, the line, “kill all the lawyers” was not designed to restore sanity to everyday life. It was intended to eliminate those who might stand in the way of a contemplated revolution, to remove the guardians of independent thinking.
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“Socialism strikes again. Contrary to popular contemporary belief, the line, “kill all the lawyers” was not designed to restore sanity to everyday life. It was intended to eliminate those who might stand in the way of a contemplated revolution, to remove the guardians of independent thinking.”
So you must be into originalism theory with regards to Shakespeare. 🙂
In Henry VI case, the lawyers were the educated class and were a threat to the power of the king. Today, the lawyers are more often the defenders of the king (power structure) and the oppressors of the people.
In this instance I’m for The Works od Shakespeare to be “living documents.”
😉
Take Care
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I was just going to “like” your comment oldiadguy; but, I had to jump in. (catching up late) We were taught in Civics/American Government that Natural Born Citizen Status Is Inherited – It’s Not Bestowed by the Constitution or Acts of Congress. You must be a NBC only to the POTUS.
When I started my own research 10 years ago now, reading original source documentation, that long ago school memory was reinforced. Also, it was important that the “President” also being Commander In Chief, had that extra qualification, due to importance of the Commander of our Military Forces, have no potential divided loyalties.
Sounds pretty sensible to me.
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That right there is against twitter policy. They ought to bounce him.
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The more that Levin sends out remarks like he did on Twitter, the more diminished he becomes in peoples eyes. Those are not remarks of a seasoned lawyer; they are remarks of a person that for some reason has become seriously unhinged. Guess SD will not hear again from Levin, “Our friends over at Conservative Treehouse”.
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I listen to all these guys, read alot, including the left-wing sites. I commented what I heard on Levin’s show at CTH. It is the truth. I heard it, and wrote what I heard.
What I cannot grasp is, why do these people who are “believers” believe everything they hear or read? I make it an intellectual excercise to see how fast I can destroy their arguments (0 seconds for Levin and many others). And question everything. Why would Levin (or anyone) think that Sundance is just one person? Levin does not work alone, none of them do. Does Sundance stay up all night moderating, then spend all day in research and writing all those articles? But, it is also quite possible that he (she?) does. And Levin “outing” him (her? them?) would certainly result in a lawsuit, should they have the money to do so.
And yes, Levin does this regularly, especially to callers who disagree with him. He will start yelling at them and calling them names. Limbaugh and Savage do not. Neither does Sundance (or Stella). That says something. Folks like Rachael Maddow also have some great pieces, altho I cannot agree with her POV at times.
I listen to and talk with all kinds of people here. Ultimately, I only know my area’s POV. And no one “demographic” is monolithic. Every single one is unique.
Full disclosure – I started (and ended) in politics with Young Republicans for Nixon, before being old enough to vote. It made me a committed cynic. And yes, many of you folks here are greatly missed. I have read the old posts/comments at CTH. Am grateful to have found many of you here.
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We’re all still over there! It’s just that there’s so many noobs now that it’s really easy to miss whenever anyone in particular “checks in.” 😉
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For new posters/ip addresses would a prescreen help like use of filling out a mix of numbers and letters “what does this say” screen? Maybe screen the trollers out faster
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It is possible to increase security by requiring registration (that means they have to use a real email address). Sundance has chosen not to do that, at least not so far.
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What I cannot grasp is, why do these people who are “believers” believe everything they hear or read?
More people are like that than not. It’s always been that way.
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Because they are too lazy to think. It’s hard.
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I’ve always liked Levin and have a few of his books.
I was disappointed in him first not disclosing his future stepson, it came off as hypocritical and then his tone after he did came off as defensive and petty, not to mention stupid imho. The whole thing about a campaign was out to smear him when it’s pretty easy for people to find out who works in Senate offices. That is something he should have known.
I don’t follow him on FB and I don’t do twitter, but this sounds very vindictive and a warning to SD that he’s a big guy who can and will out his private information. That pisses me off and it would piss me off regardless of who he was doing it to. I have lost all respect I had for him.
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That’s how it struck me, too, Michelle….. “Big Me, little you.”
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I just went to his FB and found the post and the comments.
I’m not a big important person like Levin, but I wouldn’t allow some of the comments he has allowed. Speaks more of who he is imo.
I always say though I prefer discovering who people are so I will know who I do and do not want in my foxhole. My foxhole keeps getting smaller.
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To me, it resembles the newspapers from about a hundred years ago, where the owners would ravage each other in editorials all in an attempt to gain readership.
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At least then it was a fair fight.
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Ha I’m still all mad. You guys are all so thoughtful and well reasoned and I’m stomping around like a baby T-Rex.
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I hadn’t gone on FB yet today, but this post made me curious. Some of the comments there are…. interesting.
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Thank goodness I don’t do FB. I can live long and prosper without reading comments to which you all are alluding.
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That is actually one thing I do like about FB, by being on local groups it doesn’t take long to figure out who the crazies are. Then if you see them out in public you’re forewarned.
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Wow!!! I’m out doing my good deeds for the day, then all H$LL breaks loose! So I’ll make this short, do I have too strap my Colts on? Or yell: “Rough Riders!! Saddle Up”! Does Sundance need protection, somebody to cover his 6. From what I can piece together Sundance Bit$$h slapped Levin, and Levin threatened too out him? Standing by, awaiting orders.
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Like I said to Tilda, I don’t think it’s time to circle the wagons just yet, Colonel! You’re a good egg, by the way.
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Thank you for those kind words Stella.
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“Next week, East Lynne.”
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In my humble opinion as a fraud auditor – whenever someone gets caught they get defensive – automatic reaction
Whether he thought it was important or not – he should have made a full disclosure
Honesty is always the best policy!!!
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I know nothing about this blog, but they might find themselves in Levin’s crosshairs.
http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=12621
Is Mark Levin Crazy?
By Andrew Zarowny
I apologize for the title. I do not mean to focus solely on the so-called ′Great One′, radio talk host Mark Levin. There are plenty of other ′Cucks′ out there to choose from. Take Glenn Beck, whom, yesterday, vowed to vote for Bernie Sanders over Donald Trump. Is he crazy? Yep, bat-s#*t crazy! So, too, is Mark Levin.
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Mark Levin Is Doing Some Very Good Promotion and Advertising For Sundance and The CTH, Although That Is Certainly Not His Intent.!
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Very disappointed in Levin and didn’t realize that inauspicious beginnings should be cause for shame, whether true or not. Suppose I’ll just stop enjoying my own success, drop my head, crawl over to Levins sight, and beg for acceptance and forgiveness for having begun my workaday life washing dishes, detassling corn, hauling hay, and mowing lawns. Sundance must be a loser, I sure am.
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